[Tagging] site relations for city walls?

Matthew Woehlke mwoehlke.floss at gmail.com
Thu Jul 16 14:29:49 UTC 2020

On 15/07/2020 17.10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> On 15. Jul 2020, at 16:17, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
>> Do you mean having that on both the relation and the areas?
> yes, you should have it only on the relation 

If I remove it from the areas, however, at least iD no longer thinks 
they are parking lots.

> Generally I would agree with Paul, maxstay of a few minutes isn’t actually a „parking“

I think you and I must have different definitions of "parking".

- Did you shut off the engine?
- Did you engage the parking brake?
- Did you exit and lock the vehicle?
- Are your hazard flashers *not* on?

If the answer to any of the above is 'yes', you may be "parked". If the 
answer to *all* of the above is 'yes', you are almost surely parked.

Note that there is nothing in that list about how *long* you expect to 
be away.

If you stop at a rest area, expecting to only run in and use the 
facilities and then leave again (so, less than ten minutes), do you say 
your vehicle is "parked" when you walk away from it?

For that matter, the signs themselves even say "15 minute *parking*" or 
"*parking* for to-go only" (emphasis added).

As Paul notes, these are spots where you are allowed to "park" and go 
inside to get your food. I'm inclined to agree with that distinction. (I 
might add to that "...for non-emergency purposes". A shoulder on a 
highway isn't "parking" even though you may need to leave your vehicle 
to go get help if your car breaks down.)

roughly defines "parking" as "leaving the vehicle unattended". That 
said, legal definitions can and do vary.


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