[Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?
matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Fri Jul 24 08:09:47 UTC 2020
Jul 23, 2020, 23:30 by miketho16 at gmail.com:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:34 PM Matthew Woehlke <> mwoehlke.floss at gmail.com> > wrote:
> > ...but then your horse is a passenger in a vehicle. Otherwise that would
> > be like saying a human can't ride in a vehicle if foot=no.
> Exactly, foot=no doesn't mean that feet are not allowed, it means that using a mode of transportation that primarily uses feet ("foot travel"/walking/running/hiking) isn't allowed.
> bicycle=no is consistent with this, it doesn't mean that bicycles are prohibited, it means that a mode of transportation, (bicycle riding) is prohibited.
> horse=no is apparently a little different as you point out. It seems to refer not just to a mode of transportation, but to the possession of the animal in general.
Not exactly, typical motorway is horse=no but you can still transport horses in a truck.
> It is similar to dog=no. dog=no doesn't refer to whether you can use a dog as a mode of transportation, it means you can't possess a dog at all on the given way (even if you carry it).
> > For similar reasons, I would assume that a way that allows vehicles but
> > not pushed bicycles allows a bicycle *in* a vehicle.
> Right, because it is no longer the mode of transportation.
> > FWIW, I'm sympathetic to the "no means no" camp and just declaring that
> > if you really meant "dismount", *fix it*.
> well, "no does mean no", it means "no bicycle riding", it means, no using a bicycle as a mode of transportation. It doesn't say anything about possessing a bicycle in general, or using it in another manner (pushing, carrying)
> "dismount" is not the complete solution, because, as the original question implied, sometimes it is also illegal to carry a bicycle (although I have never seen that), and as someone else pointed out, sometimes it is illegal to even possess a bicycle at all, such as in a US Wilderness Area.
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