[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bubble_tea

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Fri Jun 26 16:54:37 UTC 2020


I also think amenity=bubble_tea is more appropriate, but shop=bubble_tea is
fine.

Using amenity=cafe seems wrong. An amenity=cafe has "sit-down facilities"
according to the wiki.

Also the word "cafe" is from "coffee" - at least in the USA and Indonesia
these places always sell coffee, unlike a Bubble Tea shop.

I find it quite strange that amenity=cafe is being suggested for tea shops,
bagel shops and donut shops on the wiki.

This seems to be based on some cultural assumptions about what is a "cafe"
in European contexts, but this does not match usage in Asia and North
America.

– Joseph Eisenberg

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 9:43 AM Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 17:28, Jarek Piórkowski <jarek at piorkowski.ca>
wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 11:50, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 16:31, 德泉 談 via Tagging <
tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've drafted a new proposal about the bubble tea shops which are very
common in Taiwan which are usually mismapped as shop=beverages
>> >>
>> >>
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/shop%3Dbubble_tea
>> >
>> >
>> > Looking at your proposal, I fail to see how these are not
shop=beverages.
>>
>> Have you seen a bubble tea shop?
>
>
> Nope. :)
>>
>>
>> It's basically a cafe. It prepares drinks to order. Best tagging I've
>> seen around me is amenity=cafe + cuisine=bubble_tea
>
>
> As described in the proposal, most lack seating.  Which makes those
> without seating shops rather than cafes.
>>
>>
>> See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Acuisine%3Dbubble_tea -
>> per https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/cuisine=bubble_tea it's not
>> very common but for example iD presets have amenity=cafe +
>> cuisine=bubble_tea for Chatime
>>
https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/blob/c0b65aacf04be6753f6e7e82007399bee1e65fdc/brands/amenity/cafe.json#L314-L329
>> as well as Gong Cha, Sharetea, and a few others.
>
>
> Seems reasonable, if they have seats and they also serve food.
>>
>>
>> I would suggest using an amenity tag rather than a shop tag since it's
>> much more like a cafe or a fast food place than a store.
>
>
> I can see that it's more like fast food since the stuff has to be
prepared.
> But then I think "Starbucks."  Have we already standardized on a way
> of tagging somewhere without seats that sells takeaway coffee?
>>
>>
>> In a bubble tea place you place an order and it is prepared and served
to you.
>
>
> So like a place that sells takeaway coffee but the list of beverages
> is different.  If we have a way of mapping coffee takeaways then
> use that with drink:bubble_tea=yes.  If we don't have a way of mapping
> coffee takeaways then we probably need one that can,deal with coffee,
> bubble tea and whatever else with appropriate drink:*=*.
>
> --
> Paul
>
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