[Tagging] Addresses with PO Box, and other delivery type addresses.
Warin
61sundowner at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 05:59:51 UTC 2020
On 19/3/20 3:00 pm, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> “32 Tennant Creek” won’t work?
Tennant creek has a number of streets that could contain '32', it would not be considered 'correct addressing' by the postal service..
Putting addr:street=PRIVATE BAG 32 could work but there is no street 'PRIVATE BAG 32'.
> As mentioned, addr:full could work
Yes, that seams suitable .. I had skipped over it assuming that the rest was to do with physical features, sorry.
But it won't be parsed by software. I don't think that will matter much.
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:48 PM Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On 19/3/20 1:57 pm, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
>>> there don't appear to be any way to enter addresses that use Post Office Boxes
>> Post office boxes are located at a post office usually, and that is
>> mapped as amenity=post_office -
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpost_office
>
>
> I am not talking of the physical thing, but entering the address of a feature.
>
> Example:
>
> The Barkly Homestead
>
> Has an address of
>
> PRIVATE BAG 32
>
> Tennant Creek
>
> Northern Territory 0862
>
>
>
> In OSM I can enter the state, town and post code.
> addr:village=Tennant Creek
> addr:state=Northern Territory
> addr:postcode=0862
>
> I cannot enter the "PRIVATE BAG 32" as there is no OSM tag for it.
>
> Humm just came across addr:place, that may do?
> Err no "make sure there is a matchingplace <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place>=* object of the same name to keep data consistent. It is required by Nominatim for it to be able to find the addresses using it"
> there is no place that is "PRIVATE BAG 32" or "POST OFFICE BOX 3" ...
>
>
>
> ???
>
>
>>> other delivery types:
>>> Roadside Delivery RSD
>>> Roadside Mail Box/Bag RMB
>> Are these letter boxes located next to the road, but rather far away
>> from the house?
>>
>> These are mapped as amenity=letter_box, I believe?
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dletter_box
>>
>> There is also amenity=post_box for a device where you deposite
>> outgoing letters:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpost_box
>>
>> Is anything else missing, which can't be mapped with these tags or
>> with Key:addr:* ?
>>
>> If none of the common values of addr:* will work, you can use addr:full=*
>>
>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr%3Afull
>>
>> -- Joseph Eisenberg
>>
>> On 3/19/20, Warin<61sundowner at gmail.com> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> While there are methods of entering street addresses there don't appear
>>> to be any way to enter addresses that use Post Office Boxes and other
>>> delivery types.
>>>
>>> There is a proposal to may the existence of PO Boxes but no way to enter the
>>> address data for those that use them.
>>>
>>> As well as PO Boxes there exits several types of delivery methods in
>>> Australia, below are listed all of the officially accepted types with their
>>> officially accepted abbreviations.
>>>
>>> Care of Post Office CARE PO
>>>
>>> Community Mail Agent. CMA
>>>
>>> Community Mail Bag CMB
>>>
>>> Community Postal Agent CPA
>>>
>>> General Post Office Box GPO BOX
>>>
>>> Locked Bag LOCKED BAG
>>>
>>> Mail Service MS
>>>
>>> Post Office Box PO BOX
>>>
>>> Roadside Delivery RSD
>>>
>>> Roadside Mail Box/Bag RMB
>>>
>>> Roadside Mail Service RMS
>>>
>>> Private Bag PRIVATE BAG
>>>
>>> These all appear in the same placement of the addressed article. Perhaps
>>> a new tag addr:delivery_type=* could be used?
>>>
>>> Examples>
>>>
>>> Mr Smith
>>>
>>> PRIVATE BAG 32
>>>
>>> Tennant Creek
>>>
>>> Northern Territory 0862
>>>
>>> addr:delivery_type=PRIVATE BAG 32
>>>
>>> Mr Jones
>>>
>>> GPO BOX 3
>>>
>>> Sydney
>>>
>>> NSW 2000
>>>
>>> addr:delivery_type=GPO BOX 3
>>>
>>> In these cases there is no house number, street. There are still
>>> city/state/country and postal codes.
>>>
>>> --------------------------
>>>
>>> References?
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_Mail_Box
>>>
>>> https://www.staff.uwa.edu.au/facilities/mail/formats
>>>
>>> https://meteor.aihw.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/430096
>>>
>>> https://www.barklyhomestead.com.au/ -'contact us' they use PMB for
>>> Private Mail Bag.
>>>
>>>
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