[Tagging] Updating definition and description of place=square

Kevin Kenny kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com
Sun Mar 29 23:09:47 UTC 2020


Oh, just another random observation: extending the notion of 'square' to
the buildings that front upon it is not limited to New England. Moreover,
cursed Albion also has 'town squares' that are green space.

One example: Berkeley Square in London.  In form, it's a public garden, but
even the English designate it a town square. As I understand it, an
Englishman would not raise eyebrows at a sentence: "Winston Churchill, as a
child, lived in Berkeley Square.  The Churchills' house, № 48, is the one
entirely residential building remaining there; the rest of the buildings
are all offices of financial concerns, much like the rest of Mayfair." The
only thing there that would sound odd to American ears is that the English
speak of living 'in' a street, while the Americans speak of living 'on' a
street.


On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 6:17 PM Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com> wrote:

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> From these 2 examples how squares (I keep using this word although I am
>> not sure it actually applies) are classified (often in names), which is the
>> approach you had thought about?
>>
>
> I thought maybe the bast way to go ahead is to reverse our sequence:
>
> 1) collect a good number of examples of potential squares in different
> countries (could be done in the discussion page of the Wiki's "square"
> page) and for each one let's have:
>
>    - location (item in OSM or at least coordinates)
>    - reference (e.g. Wikipedia)
>    - type of square in in the local language (possibly with an
>    explanation in English what that type means)
>    - name (and translation to English if the name can be translated)
>    - foto
>    - description
>    - any annotation you feel useful
>
> 2) once completed we look at the collection and try to see whether we need
> a) a new tag in addition to place=square
> or
> b) we can tag all examples with place=square and the addition of *existing
> *specifyeing keys
> or
> c) we can tag all examples with place=square but with the addition of new
> square type keys
>
> Note that this collection will be useful in any case for illustrating the
> wiki, independently of the approach.
>
> *Here is an example:*
>
>
>    - location (item in OSM or at least coordinates):
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6029646
> reference:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwigskirche#Ludwigsplatz
>
>    - type of square in in the local language (possibly with an
>    explanation in English what that type means):
>
> Stadtplatz (historisch), (historical) town square
>
>    - name (and translation to English if the name can be translated)
>
> Ludwigsplatz - Ludwig's square (named after the protestant church on the
> square, which in turn is named after Ludwig, count of Nassau-Sarbruecken
> <https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_(Nassau-Saarbr%C3%BCcken)>)
> images:
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Saarbr%C3%BCcken%2C_die_H%C3%A4user_Am_Ludwigsplatz_14-14a.jpg
>
> https://www.saarland.de/bilder/res_stk/Panorama_SB-Ludwigsplatz_rdax_800x200.jpg4
>
>    - description
>
> originally designed as the centre of the town in the 18 century, today
> used partially for a periodic open-air market, partially as pedestrian
> area, some large trees, the residential streets on three sides and the
> baroque palaces are part of the architectonic ensemble
>
>    - any annotation you feel useful
>
> at present not tagged as place=square, but I would tag it as such
>
> Volker
>
>
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