[Tagging] With leisure=common deprecated, Senegal & Mali need a replacement

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Fri May 1 11:33:02 UTC 2020


On 1/5/20 9:00 pm, Florimond Berthoux wrote:
> +1 for highway=pedestrian + area=yes
> That how we map a town square in France (and every where else I guess ?)


To me highway=pedestrian is more for where for where foot traffic passes 
rather than a place where people stop and meet.

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>
> Le mer. 29 avr. 2020 à 23:18, Joseph Eisenberg 
> <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
>     I agree, the area in this spot
>     (https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA) is a
>     moderly sized open area of bare earth, with buildings on 3 sides
>     and a paved streets on a long side. It appears to be used for
>     sports and recreation, and for walking. I suspect it might be a
>     "de facto" leisure=pitch - in the USA it would be an "empty lot"
>     used for soccer/baseball/etc. It could also be a
>     highway=pedestrian + area=yes - an open pedestrian area or "town
>     square" - those are usually paved in some way in developed
>     countries, but that's not a requirement. It does not appear to be
>     a park.
>
>     There was not any formal discussion to deprecate leisure=common,
>     and mappers are certainly free to keep using that tag. It was
>     marked as deprecated by one wiki user, about a year ago.
>
>     But since the tag it is not well defined, it will be hard for
>     database users to interpret what it means.
>
>     -- Joseph Eisenberg
>
>     On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 1:41 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
>     <tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
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>         Apr 29, 2020, 21:37 by skquinn at rushpost.com
>         <mailto:skquinn at rushpost.com>:
>
>             On 4/29/20 14:34, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
>
>                 Here is a 360° picture of a square in Dakar:
>                 https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA
>                 - larger than a
>                 street (it occupies a whole city block), used as a
>                 multipurpose common
>                 area (pickup soccer games are a staple but parking or
>                 lounging around
>                 also occur, and the occasional popular event) and
>                 usually surfaced with
>                 sand or whatever the ground is.
>
>                 We have long tagged it leisure=common (389 ways in
>                 Senegal and 486 in
>                 Mali according to http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TqN) -
>                 which is a bit of
>                 stretch from the British legal definition, but worked
>                 well enough and
>                 did not conflict with its British usage. But
>                 leisure=common is now
>                 deprecated
>
>                 So, what should we use instead ?
>                 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon
>                 suggests using
>                 leisure=park - which isn't too much of a stretch
>                 functionally but evokes
>                 greenery that does not occur here (though British
>                 commons are just as
>                 green and we were happy with leisure=common)... Any
>                 other ideas ? Or I'm
>                 going to use leisure=park+surface=sand !
>
>
>             While leisure=park might work, there is also
>             leisure=recreation_ground
>             to consider.
>
>
>         leisure=recreation_ground sounds fitting to me and is without
>         baggage of legal
>         status bundled into leisure=commons
>
>         This specific place looks like leisure=pitch. And for example
>         in Poland some
>         sport pitch may be used for an occasional event, festival of
>         various types.
>
>         Note: I am unfamiliar with on-the-ground situation in Africa
>         _______________________________________________
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>
>
> -- 
> Florimond Berthoux


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