[Tagging] Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi not approved

[Jarek Piórkowski]

On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 09:05, s8evq <s8evqq at runbox.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 8 May 2020 08:43:27 -0400, Jarek Piórkowski <jarek at piorkowski.ca> wrote:
> > How much discussion do you think should be necessary before voting "I
> > oppose, because I think using sub-tags is better"? If someone thinks
> > that, they think that. A discussion would just print the arguments
> > back and forth.
>
> If these arguments were given beforehand, perhaps the proposal could have changed, or opinions could have been changed?

Honestly - I remember following the discussion on this mailing list
for a while and my impression was that the arguments _were_ given.
These arguments are not a surprise. Here's a version of this exact
argument in February:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-February/051250.html

Subsequent discussion here is an example of what happened. Some
people, _after having read the rationale offered_, think that a
separate tag is not warranted. Some people think that it is. You won't
win an argument by telling others they're wrong.

> I hardly have any experience in proposals and the voting system. But I've seen 3 proposal so far, where I know the author doesn't want to bring it to vote, fearing the proposal would be rejected. The rationale behind it: status Rejected is worse than having the proposal in the "Draft" state forever.
>
> And then some people in this very thread suggest to just ignore a rejection and start using it anyway. What's the use of the whole voting system then? Why even bother writing a proposal in the first place? I'll just do whatever.

Yeah I understand. I myself rejected Joseph's suggestion to make a tag
I used locally and documented on wiki into a "proposal", because I
don't want the hassle.

My interpretation is that "approved" is a _lot_ higher status than "in
use", precisely because how harsh the proposal process is. That's just
I see it being in OSM - you can have in-use tags, locally-accepted
tags, and then the "approved" tags are really really accepted
(especially those approved after, say, 2012).

Failing a proposal isn't a bad thing. Tag what you like. (With some
exceptions, like straight-up vandalism or trolltags)

--Jarek