[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*
Lukas Richert
lrichert at posteo.de
Thu Nov 5 14:32:12 UTC 2020
I have now switched over the tagging and examples to the namespace based
tagging of grid and generator. Overall, this makes it easier and clearer
to tag backup generators and grid-connected houses with solar panels etc
IMO. Perhaps it would also be possible to then tag electricity:grid=yes
and electricity=no in the case of grid connected houses experiencing a
long-term power outage during a natural disaster?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/electricity
Regards, Lukas
On 03/11/2020 22:07, Lukas Richert wrote:
>
> I also think the *electricity:grid=yes/no/backup* and
> *electricity:generator=yes/no/backup* tags are clearer and would allow
> for off-grid buildings to be tagged more distinctly.
>
> The electricity tag isn't used a lot yet. I have no experience with
> automated or semi-automated edits, but perhaps changing
> electricity=none and electricity=grid to electricity:grid=yes would be
> relatively straightforward? (This is unfortunately the problem with
> people adding major undiscussed/proposed tags to the main wiki.
> Especially power_supply is frustrating. )
>
> What do others think about the tag options
>
> electricity:grid=yes/no/backup
> electricity:generator=yes/no/backup
> electricity=yes
> electricity=no
>
> [electricity=yes would be used when grid or generator is unknown]
> instead of
>
> electricity=grid
> electricity=generator
> electricity=yes
> electricity=no
>
> Cheers Lukas
>
>
> On 03/11/2020 21:20, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 00:13, Lukas Richert <lrichert at posteo.de
>> <mailto:lrichert at posteo.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> While the original proposal did specify that generators are
>> usually diesel, broadening the definition would only lead to a
>> loss of detail, but the tagging would still be correct. I'm
>> hesitant to use *offgrid* as a building that has, for example, a
>> grid connection with solar panels on the roof would then be
>> tagged as *electricity=grid;offgrid* instead of
>> *electricity=grid;generator*. The former is illogical.
>>
>> However, I don't have any experience in developing countries: is
>> it easier to verify if something is off-grid compared to if it is
>> connected to a generator? And, would it be necessary to
>> differentiate between local grids (i.e. 2-3 generators, no
>> substations, transfromers, etc.) and national grids? Perhaps then
>> a network tag would be useful, i.e. network=national, local,
>> regional similar to the way cycle networks are mapped?
>>
>> A further suggestion was to change the tagging
>> to***electricity:grid=yes/no/backup* and/or
>> *electricity:generator=yes/no/backup*. This might be less
>> ambiguous for tagging amenities or buildings that get electricity
>> from both sources and would then be more consistent with tagging
>> such as *electricity:generator:origin=diesel* when, e.g. a
>> building has a backup diesel generator but is connected to the
>> grid. Unfortunately, it would then not be consistent with the use
>> by the Healthsites Mapping Project, although this already has the
>> inconsistent *electricity=none* tag which should probably be
>> changed directly to *electricity=no.*
>>
>> Here is the link to that suggestion I made
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/electricity#multiple_values
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/electricity#multiple_values> and
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/electricity#origin_of_different_sources
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/electricity#origin_of_different_sources>
>>
>> The whole point of the proposal process is to identify these
>> potential issues, resolve them, and get community agreement. If the
>> goal is just to implement someone else's standard then we can't use
>> the wisdom of the community here to improve the tag, therefore I'm
>> not too fussed about making this match what another project is using,
>> instead we should aim to have the best tags and documentation as the
>> outcome of this proposal process. Then if that's different, other
>> projects closely tied to OSM can migrate to the OSM community
>> accepted schema.
>>
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