[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity:source

[Mateusz Konieczny]

In that case you want to tag what is signed,
not actual electricity source.

marked_as_green_energy=*

marked_as_renewable_energy=*

is verifiable and does not require
- impossible for mapper - verification
of an actual energy source

29 wrz 2020, 22:28 od lrichert at posteo.de:

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> Hi Colin, 
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> I agree that while a few suppliers source all of their      electricity from renewable sources, most simply add a surcharge      which is used to fund the growth of renewable energy      infrastructure and price the electricity as if it were coming from      solely renewable energy sources. I'm working on an article for      Wikipedia that will explain green pricing tariffs in detail as      this seems to be lacking in English. 
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> Arguing if the definiton of 'green electricity' is actually      'green' is not the point, this is already a term that is      explicitly advertised at the charging stations or camp sites (see      images in proposal) and also something that consumers look for as      they want to fund renewable energies in the hope that all grid      energy will be completely 'renewable' in future. While this      obviously won't be for at least 15-50 years depending on who you      ask, I think it is a worthwhile attribute to map as some people      are conscious of what types of electricity generation they wish to      support. 
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> Best, Lukas
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> On 29/09/2020 16:56, Colin Smale wrote:
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>> Hi Lukas,
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>> You do realise that all electricity is the same, irrespective        of how it is generated? The "greenness" or otherwise is not        determined by the connection, but by the subscription/contract        that the consumer has with their supplier.
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>> UNLESS they have a standalone generating capability, like PV or        wind turbine that is not connected to the grid.
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>> On 2020-09-29 16:00, Lukas Richert wrote:
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>>> Hi,
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>>> I'd like to propose a new tag that defines the source of          publicly available electricity: >>> electricity:source <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/electricity:source>
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>>> This could be used as an additional information tag on          amenities that provide electricity for public consumption,          such as bike/car charging stations or camp sites. Many          charging stations have nearby solar or use green pricing          tariffs. I've also seen camp sites and harbours advertise          this.
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>>> This topic came up as a group wanted to plan a bike tour          using e-bikes but only with renewable energy. I noticed that          there appears to be no easy way to filter for the source of          the electricity provided.
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>>> Potential discussion: It's not quite clear to me whether          power_supply or electricity is preferred for this type of          application. It might also be interesting for consumers to see          which buildings are powered by green electricity if this is          something a store or similar advertises. So it may be worth          expanding the proposal to electricity used by the public even          if not directly available (e.g. lighting in a store).
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>>> Best regards,
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>>> Lukas
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