[Tagging] Proposal to change key:man_made to key:human_made

[Peter Elderson]

Another illusion shattered... where is this world going to?

Best, Peter Elderson

> Op 19 okt. 2020 om 13:48 heeft Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> It would be best to first consider the consequences of such a change. Weigh the benefits against what we lose in time (humanhours?) and resources/energy. And then there is still the point that many objects will get new timestamps for a change that's not really a change.
> 
> Anyway, artificial sounds like made up to me. artificial=dyke, not really a dyke, but it looks like it.
> 
> man_made has the advantage of being succinct. Most people will immediately understand what is meant by it. Almost nobody will think women were not involved in the creation of the feature.
> 
> Polyglot
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:42 PM Robert Delmenico <robert at rtbk.com.au> wrote:
>> Nice investigating Nathan,
>> 
>> I would be open to using artificial instead of human_made.
>> 
>> 
>> Would it be best to change the proposal or start a second proposal?
>> Change man_made= to artificial=
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 21:14, nathan case <nathancase at outlook.com> wrote:
>>> Pros and cons aside, “human-made” is not a term that is in current widespread usage. As a native English GB speaker, I find it clunky and somewhat distracting.
>>> 
>>> A better gender neutral term might be “artificial”, which is already a synonym for “man-made” and is already widely used. 
>>> 
>>> Indeed, the Handbook of Nonsexist Writing suggests: "artificial, handmade, hand-built, synthetic, manufactured, fabricated, machine-made, and constructed" as options instead of man-made. Presumably the majority (if not all) of OSM "man-made" tags relate to objects which are not naturally occurring. Therefore "artificial" seems to hold.
>>> 
>>> Other sources: 
>>> https://writingcenter.unc.edu/tips-and-tools/gender-inclusive-language/ 
>>> https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/Usage/faq0053.html
>>> https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/man-made
>>> 
>>> An issue may arise if artificial is already being used as a tag however.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Nathan
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