[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity:source

Lukas Richert lrichert at posteo.de
Tue Sep 29 20:28:55 UTC 2020


Hi Colin,

I agree that while a few suppliers source all of their electricity from 
renewable sources, most simply add a surcharge which is used to fund the 
growth of renewable energy infrastructure and price the electricity as 
if it were coming from solely renewable energy sources. I'm working on 
an article for Wikipedia that will explain green pricing tariffs in 
detail as this seems to be lacking in English.

Arguing if the definiton of 'green electricity' is actually 'green' is 
not the point, this is already a term that is explicitly advertised at 
the charging stations or camp sites (see images in proposal) and also 
something that consumers look for as they want to fund renewable 
energies in the hope that all grid energy will be completely 'renewable' 
in future. While this obviously won't be for at least 15-50 years 
depending on who you ask, I think it is a worthwhile attribute to map as 
some people are conscious of what types of electricity generation they 
wish to support.

Best, Lukas


On 29/09/2020 16:56, Colin Smale wrote:
>
> Hi Lukas,
>
> You do realise that all electricity is the same, irrespective of how 
> it is generated? The "greenness" or otherwise is not determined by the 
> connection, but by the subscription/contract that the consumer has 
> with their supplier.
>
> UNLESS they have a standalone generating capability, like PV or wind 
> turbine that is not connected to the grid.
>
> On 2020-09-29 16:00, Lukas Richert wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to propose a new tag that defines the source of publicly 
>> available electricity: electricity:source 
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/electricity:source> 
>>
>>
>> This could be used as an additional information tag on amenities that 
>> provide electricity for public consumption, such as bike/car charging 
>> stations or camp sites. Many charging stations have nearby solar or 
>> use green pricing tariffs. I've also seen camp sites and harbours 
>> advertise this.
>>
>> This topic came up as a group wanted to plan a bike tour using 
>> e-bikes but only with renewable energy. I noticed that there appears 
>> to be no easy way to filter for the source of the electricity provided.
>>
>> Potential discussion: It's not quite clear to me whether power_supply 
>> or electricity is preferred for this type of application. It might 
>> also be interesting for consumers to see which buildings are powered 
>> by green electricity if this is something a store or similar 
>> advertises. So it may be worth expanding the proposal to electricity 
>> used by the public even if not directly available (e.g. lighting in a 
>> store).
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Lukas
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