[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - reusable packaging
Bert -Araali- Van Opstal
bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com
Mon Apr 26 19:35:48 UTC 2021
I am on the same page like Frederik. We should store this kind of
"policy" issues in related projects, like wikidata, which are more
accessible and easier to maintain and query.
The fact if they use re-usable packaging or accept it is not geo-related
data at all.
Another concern is that some countries have legislation in force to
promote re-usable packaging. Rwanda and Uganda have this for plastic
bags, you should not even be able to enter the country with any plastic
bag. In Rwanda it is enforced and quite successful, in Uganda it is
legislation but not practised and not enforced. So legally, in the case
of Uganda, we would need a re-usable packaging tag but need to indicate
that it's not legally enforced etc.... . Then what is re-usable, am I
allowed to bring my own container or bag or are there any specific
restrictions, part of a certain custom system.
So the data, at least in the short term might be very diverse and
unstable. Just re-usable will not add a lot of useful practical data.
Make a wikidata entry and use wikdata to store this kind of information,
easily to be linked and queried together with the geo data stored in OSM.
On 23/04/2021 17:12, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I am against tags that describe short-term business decisions. A shop
> might be part of the XY alliance today and part of the ABC alliance
> tomorrow. They might offer cash withdrawal at the register today and
> stop doing that tomorrow. They might buy green power today and nuclear
> power tomorrow. The supermarket might carry gluten-free food today and
> drop it tomorrow. All these are decisions that are made by some
> management people somewhere in the chain store's management department
> based on forecasts about which "brand message" will bring them the
> most customers, and most of them can be changed willy-nilly, from one
> day to the next.
> I do not wish OpenStreetMap to become a tool in this marketing
> exercise, and I think it is futile for us to run after each little
> adjustment made by the store marketing department.
> Of course if taken to the extreme this opinion would apply to opening
> times and some other frequently recorded things as well. Personally, I
> think there are some properties that are relatively essential - is the
> shop open, and maybe what chain is it part of, if any. But do I really
> need OpenStreetMap to record details about whether a shop has reusable
> packaging? My opinion is, no - not least because it is hard enough to
> keep opening times current, I don't want to have to enter the shop and
> ask if they have changed their policy regarding reusable packaging in
> the last year.
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