[Tagging] [External] How to tag with KartaView images?
Vincas Dargis
vindrg at gmail.com
Mon Aug 2 11:05:35 UTC 2021
Hi Poornima,
"image" is sometimes already used, specifying "official" image from, for example, tourism information site or regional
park direction, or similar.
Together with "image" there can be "mapillary" [1] key with just id (not full link) of the geotagged image.
I would suggest to document start using "kartaview" key too. There was some usage in "1234:0" format that I am
continuing using (someone else started it). See some examples here:
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/kartaview#values
Though I would like to use "1234/0" format to uniquely identify KartaView image as it's enough to copy-paste that part
from URL without changing ":" into "/", resulting in more convention workflow. Since not that much values are used, I
could go and change them into "/" notation myself using Overpass-API query in JOSM.
I've created wish-list issue for Overpass-turbo website to support "kartaview" tags as there's for "mapillary" (they
generate active link to mapillary.com if there's mapillary value set), though so far no response heard:
https://github.com/tyrasd/overpass-turbo/issues/524
Same could be done form JOSM KartaView plugin. Mapillary plugin allows to "Copy key" that helps to add "mapillary="
value into the object. That would be useful in KartaView plugin too.
So to recap, I would like to see this achieved:
1. Have kartaview=* key documented in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org
2. Have Overpass-Turbo website updated to bring KartaView support in par with Mapillary (generate links if kartaview=
exists).
3. Have JOSM KartaView plugin updated to be able to copy image id (3754153/0 in case of
https://kartaview.org/details/3754153/0/track-info).
4. Have main OpenStreetMap website to generate links to KartaView (and Mapillary) too, see
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/986#issuecomment-890932521
My personal motivation to "care" about KartaView is that I just don't want Mapillary to be "monopoly" of geotagged images.
[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mapillary
2021-07-18 20:55, Poornima Badrinath rašė:
> Hey Vincas,
>
> My suggestion would also be to use the "image" key tag to KartaView, along with the location.. But I am not sure if this
> is possible from the developer side. I would also suggest to reach out to the tag info editors as well to get some
> clarity on the consistency of tagging images.
>
> I hope this helps. Please do let me know if you have any questions or need any other clarification on what I
> mentioned above.
>
> Thanks,
> Poornima
>
>
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> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 9:46 PM Poornima Badrinath <poornima.badrinath at grab.com <mailto:poornima.badrinath at grab.com>> wrote:
>
> Hey Miruna and Vincas,
>
> Thanks for adding me to this thread. I am checking it, I will get back to you with updates if any by tomorrow EOD.
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> Poornima
>
> On Mon, 12 Jul, 2021, 6:52 pm Miruna-Ana Craciun, <miruna.craciun at grabtaxi.com <mailto:miruna.craciun at grabtaxi.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hey @Jinal Foflia <mailto:jinal.foflia at grab.com> , @Poornima Badrinath <mailto:poornima.badrinath at grab.com> !
>
> Could you please offer Vincas some advice regarding this matter?
>
> Thank you!
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 1:44 PM Vincas Dargis <vindrg at gmail.com <mailto:vindrg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi list,
>
> We have dedicated Mapillary key [0] that specifies image id (like 169299668433527 [1], set on OSM building
> [2]).
> Overpass Turbo, for example, recognizes that key and allows to view image from within O.T. interface.
>
> But I am not sure how to use images hosted on KartaView system, as there's no tagging info in relevant wiki
> page [3].
>
> Currently, I use "image" key to set ling to the KartaView interface showing image, and also information
> about track, so
> that viewer can even navigate forward/backward across that track of images. See [4] set on the building
> mentioned before
> [2].
>
> Though one Lithuanian OSM community member showed concern if this is actually OK to do that. Link is not
> directly to the
> image, but to the website that loads the image (seems like "image" key allows to link to the webiste: "URL
> or URI of a
> page containing the image alongside copyright information and other details", but that does not seem
> "perfect" [5]).
> That would not be "nice" for other tools like Overpass Turbo, as they would have to load that page by
> themselves, and
> then figure out the actual image URL if they wanted to implement image viewing functionality as there is
> with Mapillary
> case.
>
> Alternative would be to use "image" key but set direct link to the image, for example to
> https://api.openstreetcam.org/storage13/files/photo/2021/6/24/proc/3686249_15600_60d4c8c627ab8.jpg
> <https://api.openstreetcam.org/storage13/files/photo/2021/6/24/proc/3686249_15600_60d4c8c627ab8.jpg> , but I
> am not sure
> if this link to the "...storage13..." is actually persistent. I've added CC to KartaView contact mail
> address with hope
> to get comment form KartView developers. Also, if there's already link to other image beforehand, there
> would be no way
> to add KartaView image (with track info, etc).
>
> Another way would be to start using "kartaview" key, like there are just few uses already [6] . But even
> there, we see
> values like "2990358:29" and "/details/1353375/3377", so lack of consistency is already there with just few
> keys used...
>
> So I feel a bit lost, and so would like to get some suggestions and guidance from OSM community. It would be
> great to
> get comments from KartaView representatives too!
>
> My motivation is to upload images to KartaView first, and then to Mapillary, just for the sake of not making
> Mapillary
> the monopoly of geo-tagged images...
>
>
> [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mapillary <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mapillary>
> [1] https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=169299668433527&lat=56.06314570278499&lng=23.482147703208966&z=17
> <https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=169299668433527&lat=56.06314570278499&lng=23.482147703208966&z=17>
> [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/195327411 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/195327411>
> [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/KartaView <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/KartaView>
> [4] https://kartaview.org/details/3686249/2/track-info <https://kartaview.org/details/3686249/2/track-info>
> [5] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:image#Usage <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:image#Usage>
> [6] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/kartaview#values
> <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/kartaview#values>
>
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