[Tagging] RFC new role value for recreational routes

Volker Schmidt voschix at gmail.com
Wed Aug 11 06:30:58 UTC 2021


There are busses and ferry/waterbus segments in some bicycle routes. I have
not checked if they are tagged and, if so, with what role.
The busses I know of are on Fernpass and Reschenpass to avoid
heavy/dangerous traffic. The ferries are in the Venice lagoon, and one on
the Po river.
I suspect that there are many more.
It may be better to make a formal proposal.

On Tue, 10 Aug 2021, 22:34 Yves via Tagging, <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
wrote:

> Maybe 'transfer' is too much of a French word to be British English? I
> don't know.
>
> A while ago, piste:connection was introduced with some success for various
> ways connecting ski pistes together (other than aerialway=*).
> Regards, Yves
>
> Le 10 août 2021 21:47:51 GMT+02:00, Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com>
> a écrit :
>>
>> I am in a discussion with French mappers of hiking routes (GR).
>> They are completing and correcting all GR's in France, and creating QA
>> tooling and a presentation site.
>>
>> They need a solution for sections of long trails which require a
>> transfer. By train, by cable car, by ferry. I would like to add: a solution
>> that works for all recreational routes.
>>
>> This solution should enable data users to query for (routes containing)
>> such sections; to calculate length (distance) including and excluding such
>> sections. And in the first place, such sections should be allowed in the
>> routes, even if the transport mode differs from the rest of the route.
>>
>> Proposed solution
>> I propose a new role value. for
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Roles_for_recreational_route_relations
>> role *transfer* A transfer section, signposted or otherwise indicated as
>> a regular part of the route. The traveler is transferred by a different
>> means of transport e.g. cable car, train or boat from the end of one
>> section to the beginning of the next.
>>
>> As with the other roles, this role can be applied to way members and/or
>> to relation members. Data users can decide how to deal with sections with
>> this role with regard to filtering, rendering, data presentation, computing
>> length and elevation profiles, routing.
>>
>> Voting? I'd rather not...
>> Since it's only a niche role value, my preference would be to discuss
>> the proposed new value here and then add it to the wiki, unless there are
>> significant objections.Then I will bring it to the attention of relevant
>> developers of tools, renderers and communities.
>>
>> Peter Elderson
>>
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