[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse bush

[Volker Schmidt]

Attention: There is a difference between scrub and shrub:

Scrub, low shrub and grass characteristic of scrubland
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrubland>

Village greens are very English, because of the implied fact that they are
common land. There is an implied (typical) landcover=grass.

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On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 21:35, Stefan Tauner <stefan.tauner at gmx.at> wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 19:27:27 +0100 (CET)
> Vincent van Duijnhoven via Tagging <tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
> > I understand that compared with e.g. landuse=residential or
> > industrial, there is a notable difference. On the other hand,
> > landuse=bush would in my opinion perfectly fit with the other landuse
> > tags like village_green, grass, forest and flowerbed. Especially if
> > the bushes are maintained by the government, isn't it then a landuse?
>
> IMHO: no, neither is grass or flowerbed. There should be a distinction
> between how people use an area and what it actually is. Unfortunately,
> OSM uses the natural and landuse keys to mark both in an intertwined
> way that does not make too much sense. See Jeron Hoek's reply later for
> some more background on that or take a look at this document and the
> related discussions/links and proposals:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Imagic/landcover
>
> > About barrier=hedge, I think a clear distinction is its function. Is
> > it purely a barrier or is the main function decorative. For example,
> > the first and last of the four example images are decorative in my
> > opinion. Yes, the limit movement but they are added for decorative
> > purpose.
>
> You don't need to explain your views to me but make these distinctions
> clear in the proposal so that the wide variety of people that will
> read it in the future does "the right thing"(tm). It might be hard for
> someone to recognize the intent of such bushes (which you describe as
> the defining attribute), and in some cases the bushes might be added to
> provide both (IMHO they should get both tags in that case). The
> documentation should take care to cover these edge cases.
>
> >
> > Village_green is a harder one. Atleast in the Netherlands, it is
> > almost not used only sometimes at the very center of a village. I
> > can't really comment on that one.
>
> Maybe our british friends can phrase that out. I'd say the most
> important difference is that landuse=bush would almost exclusively
> comprise bushes and scrubs (maybe with some soil or grassy patches in
> between) while village_green is way more accessible to humans on foot
> and shows a wider variety of natural and artificial ground features.
> --
> Kind regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Stefan Tauner
>
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