[Tagging] Draft proposal for historic cemetery

Paul Allen pla16021 at gmail.com
Tue Feb 9 23:37:47 UTC 2021


On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 23:16, Daniel Capilla <dcapillae at gmail.com> wrote:

Thank for your comment. That is correct. I have also used "historic=yes".
> It is the most obvious, though not the most specific.
>

Again, I invite you to explain why you think it is not the most specific.
Or to
explain what you mean by "specific" in this context.

> A historic building is tagged "historic=building". This is a specific
> value for "historic". It could also be tagged as "building=yes" +
> "historic=yes". It is correct, but it is not specific.
>
Most times I have encountered historic=building it was an error whether it
was
specified as historic=building or building=yes + historic=yes.  Most
buildings
are not of historic note as buildings.  Some have legal protections assigned
by heritage organizations and are better tagged using heritage=*.  Some
are of note because a famous person was born there but those usually
have some sort of memorial plaque and historic=memorial is a better
way of tagging it.

> This proposal tries to document in the best possible way a value in use
> for the key "historic". I think that historic cemeteries are features with
> enough entity to have a specific documented value for "historic". On the
> "Key:historic" page there are some well-documented values. [1]
>
I think I've now figured out what you mean by "specific."   It seems to mean
you think it needs its own historic=* value and your rationale appears to be
because you'd like it that way.

In contrast to you, I think most values of historic=* are bogus and should
be deprecated in favour of adding historic=yes where appropriate.  There
are only a couple of objects which truly justify their own historic value
because they cannot be anything other than historic, such as memorial
plaques.  Most houses are not historic.  Most cemeteries are not historic.
All memorial plaques are historic because they describe something
noteworthy from the past (noteworthy enough that somebody puts up
a plaque about it).  You cannot have a memorial plaque or monument
that is not historic.

-- 
Paul
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