[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop as post-partner

[Paul Allen]

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 14:40, Robin Burek <robin.burek at gmx.de> wrote:

> Am 11.02.2021 um 14:34 schrieb Paul Allen:
>
> And people get to see both icons on the map.
>
> I am sorry, your answer violates several good practices:
>

I am sorry, but it is your proposal that violates several good practices.

>
>    1. One feature, one OSM element -> This is one shop - so it has to get
>    one Objekt!
>
> These are two different features within one building.  This is not a single
node with several features, which is what you are proposing.

>
>    1. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wii/One_feature,_one_OSM_element
>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element>
>
> There is absolutely nothing in that which prohibits two nodes in close
proximity representing two different features.  Or nodes within a building
representing sub-features, such as elevators.

>
>    1. Tagging for the randerer -> You tag multiple nodes for one shop to
>    make it visible on the map.
>    https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer
>
> I am tagging WHAT IS THERE IN REALITY.  It has the side-effect of being
rendered in a useful way.  It would be correct tagging if neither icon were
rendered and it is still correct tagging when both are rendered.  The fact
that when I tag reality it is rendered in a useful way is a pleasant
benefit that most people would interpret as being an additional reason
to map reality.

>
>
> That is exactly why I propose this proposal. Because there is currently
> no way to represent something like that.
>
And yet there is.  In any shop I'm aware of in the UK that offers a post
office
service the counter is physically separated by barriers from ordinary shop
counters.  One counter handles postal services and nothing else.
One or more counters handle non-postal services.

> We can really discuss what information we can give to an renderer or how a
> renderer can display this, but to create multiple nodes for one object is
> against our own rules.
>
I have not done this.  You, however, wish to use a single object to
represent multiple things and it appears you want to do this because you
don't like maintaining two sets of opening hours.  You may be surprised
to learn that, in the UK, a post office counter within a shop often
has more restrictive opening hours than the shop itself.

-- 
Paul
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