[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - holy well

Bert -Araali- Van Opstal bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com
Thu Feb 18 20:25:26 UTC 2021


Dear Anne,

You should abstain from using specific religious terms like "holy" and
"paganism".
To my honest opinion the existing tagging schemes and attribution for
amenity=place_of_worship combined with tourist=attraction offer enough
flexibility and most of all neutrality in the religious context to suite
your needs.
Of course there are numerous wells across the world with either a
religious significance (sometimes the same well is significant in
different religions or to different denominations). Some have
significance for tourism purposes, others might be preferred by the
worshippers, to be accessible only in a more private context.
Please read through the related wiki pages, to my opinion very detailed
and of high quality to address your local specific needs and offering
enough variation for any religious or tourist related significance. You
can extend them to suite your specific needs, I personally see no need
for a new key or value for this purpose or revert to a proposal if you
feel you need broader confirmation from the community. Do respect
neutrality in the additions or modifications.

Greetings, Bert Araali


On 18/02/2021 21:31, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote:
>
> I understand it's a bit of a tricky one. Wishing wells/ fountains
> mostly used by tourists should not count, because there is not an
> established religion behind that thinking of leaving a coin for good
> luck. They are all votive offerings though, no matter if they are rags
> or coins or whatever else people leave there (probably masks now, I
> haven't been to a site since lockdown).
>
> Good rule of thumb: If it has a saint's name attached, it's a holy
> well. Or rather "holy well".
>
> Anne
>
> Am 18/02/2021 um 16:04 schrieb Volker Schmidt:
>> Interesting idea.
>> But difficult to define.
>> There is a wide spectrum from really sacred places, like chapels with
>> a spring inside to the wells or fountains where people go with
>> plastic bottles
>> to collect "good" or "healthy" water.and the wells that tourists fill
>> with coins (no drinking water there).
>> I would rather see this somehow under the tourism tent - pilgrimage
>> is the original form of tourism.
>>
>> Volker
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 14:42, Anne-Karoline Distel
>> <annekadistel at web.de <mailto:annekadistel at web.de>> wrote:
>>
>>     It's me again, full of ideas.
>>
>>     I propose a tag for holy wells, one of the reasons being that my
>>     local
>>     council wants them mapped and I've been trying to convince them
>>     to use
>>     OSM for a while. Also, because it would entice rural mappers to get
>>     started and because they play a role in tourism (if you count
>>     pilgrimage
>>     as tourism).
>>
>>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/holy_well
>>
>>     I'm especially interested in other religions' perspective, but I
>>     don't
>>     know if this phenomenon exists outside Christianity and Paganism.
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     Anne
>>
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