[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - holy well

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Thu Feb 18 20:32:59 UTC 2021


Many places with "miraculous water" / "blessed water" do not qualify for
amenity=place_of_worship, and such tagging would be incorrect

Feb 18, 2021, 21:25 by bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com:

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> Dear Anne,
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> You should abstain from using specific        religious terms like "holy" and "paganism".
>  To my honest opinion the existing tagging schemes and        attribution for amenity=place_of_worship combined with        tourist=attraction offer enough flexibility and most of all        neutrality in the religious context to suite your needs.
>  Of course there are numerous wells across the world with either        a religious significance (sometimes the same well is significant        in different religions or to different denominations). Some have        significance for tourism purposes, others might be preferred by        the worshippers, to be accessible only in a more private        context.
>  Please read through the related wiki pages, to my opinion very        detailed and of high quality to address your local specific        needs and offering enough variation for any religious or tourist        related significance. You can extend them to suite your specific        needs, I personally see no need for a new key or value for this        purpose or revert to a proposal if you feel you need broader        confirmation from the community. Do respect neutrality in the        additions or modifications.
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> Greetings, Bert Araali
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> On 18/02/2021 21:31, Anne-Karoline      Distel wrote:
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>> I understand it's a bit of a tricky one. Wishing wells/        fountains mostly used by tourists should not count, because        there is not an established religion behind that thinking of        leaving a coin for good luck. They are all votive offerings        though, no matter if they are rags or coins or whatever else        people leave there (probably masks now, I haven't been to a site        since lockdown).
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>> Good rule of thumb: If it has a saint's name attached, it's a        holy well. Or rather "holy well".
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>> Anne
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>> Am 18/02/2021 um 16:04 schrieb Volker        Schmidt:
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>>> Interesting idea.
>>> But difficult to define.
>>> There is a wide spectrum from really sacred places, like            chapels with a spring inside to the wells or fountains where            people go with plastic bottles 
>>> to collect "good" or "healthy" water.and the wells that            tourists fill with coins (no drinking water there).
>>> I would rather see this somehow under the tourism tent -            pilgrimage is the original form of tourism.
>>>
>>> Volker
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>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at            14:42, Anne-Karoline Distel <>>> annekadistel at web.de>>> >            wrote:
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>>>> It's me again, full of            ideas.
>>>>  
>>>>  I propose a tag for holy wells, one of the reasons being            that my local
>>>>  council wants them mapped and I've been trying to convince            them to use
>>>>  OSM for a while. Also, because it would entice rural mappers            to get
>>>>  started and because they play a role in tourism (if you            count pilgrimage
>>>>  as tourism).
>>>>  
>>>>  >>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/holy_well
>>>>  
>>>>  I'm especially interested in other religions' perspective,            but I don't
>>>>  know if this phenomenon exists outside Christianity and            Paganism.
>>>>  
>>>>  Cheers,
>>>>  
>>>>  Anne
>>>>  
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