[Tagging] Use of highway=track vs highway=service cemeteries, parks, allotment gardens, golf courses, and recreation areas

Bert -Araali- Van Opstal bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com
Sun Feb 28 17:59:50 UTC 2021


Yes, those are the existing ones, thank you for listing the links Joseph.
They are absolutely not complete and avoid all tagging and mapping 
confusion, but a good starting point.  To better understand the 
problematic use of OSM in the southern hemisphere (they are also used 
largely in Asia and South-America if I am not mistaking, mainly through 
HOTOSM projects or as a basis for development of local tagging 
guidelines) and could be a good resource to reflect the mapping issues 
faced in the non-western world, namely outside of North-America and Europe.

Thank you,

Bert Araali

On 28/02/2021 20:14, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> That would be: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa 
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa>
>
> Also see: "East Africa Tagging Guidelines:"
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/East_Africa_Tagging_Guidelines 
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/East_Africa_Tagging_Guidelines>
>
> – Joseph Eisenberg
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 8:47 AM Bert -Araali- Van Opstal 
> <bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     We don't have specific local tagging guidelines, except the
>     Highway Africa tagging, we are working on that creating local
>     working groups. But that's a long process as you will understand.
>
>     I will do my best to make a summary of what I found through the
>     comments and discussions here, not representing how it is used
>     across the world, I lack the means and resources to do such a
>     broad investigation. But if a such a summary can help, very
>     willing to do that but will take one to a few days.
>
>     Greetings,
>
>     Bert Araali
>
>     On 28/02/2021 19:08, brad wrote:
>>     "That is why in Africa we consider access keys only to be used
>>     for legal access restrictions"    That's the way most of us do it
>>     also, and that's the way the wiki is written.
>>     I'm not clear on what you do differently in Africa,  Is there a
>>     document which describes the methodology?   If not, perhaps a
>>     quick informal summary of the differences here would be helpful.
>>
>>     On 2/28/21 6:03 AM, Bert -Araali- Van Opstal wrote:
>>>
>>>     And even adding on that, what about a non-paved road with so
>>>     many potholes or turning into a mudpool during the rainy season
>>>     that it can't be travelled anymore by any vehicle. Should I put
>>>     motor-vehicle=no ?
>>>     Even the bollards here get driven over, a bollard made of just a
>>>     wooden stem won't stop a truck driver from running over it, if
>>>     their is no signage. Again local culture, local perception.
>>>     If there are trees growing next to a road, most of the drivers
>>>     go there with a chainsaw, we cut it. Should I use an access key
>>>     to indicate that the road might be to narrow for a truck ?
>>>
>>>     That is why in Africa we consider access keys only to be used
>>>     for legal access restrictions, not physical. For that we use
>>>     other keys like smoothness, intermittent, seasonal etc.... . 
>>>     That is why we have in the largest part of the world a
>>>     completely different approach of highway tagging and that is why
>>>     I would prefer to see it changed or at least forked (not just a
>>>     "buried" continental variant), because what we have now as the
>>>     global OSM standard is not usable, is not applicable in the
>>>     rest, which is "the most" part of the world.
>>>
>>>     On 28/02/2021 13:50, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>>>     sent from a phone
>>>>
>>>>>     On 28 Feb 2021, at 09:53, Minh Nguyen<minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us>  <mailto:minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     * A particular barrier=bollard could be motorcar=no regardless of signage or legal prohibitions, just based on the width on either side of the bollard.
>>>>     this is easy, but what about motorcycle=no? Could depend on the jurisdiction/situation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Cheers Martin
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