[Tagging] Highway=rest_area on bicycle or foot routes ?

Volker Schmidt voschix at gmail.com
Mon Jan 4 16:55:31 UTC 2021

I realize that I should have put something else in the first message:
We do also  have proper rest areas on cycle routes, with restaurants, bike
repair facilities, ecc. They are commonly known as "bicigrill
<https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piste_ciclabili_del_Trentino#I_bicigrill>" -
the term is taken from a well-known brand of multinational motorway
restaurant operator <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autogrill>.
Here is an example: bicigrill near Tezze
<https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/XiRiUJUmGulXPXrGfNyyjt> on  the Valsugana
cycle route

On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 12:03, Stefan Tauner <stefan.tauner at gmx.at> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 00:53:40 -0800
> stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:
> > If I were a cyclist, I might feel differently if it were
> miserably-raining or hot-as-Hades, but Goodna Creek Rest Stop looks like
> more of a joke than what I would call a “Rest Stop.”  I do not mean to
> offend, and I realize that automobile operators pulling into “my”
> California Rest Stop can use the restroom, fill a canteen, buy.a
> reasonably-priced ice cream bar (frozen pretty solid, even on a hot day)
> and make a phone call, all while the kids are running the dog and filling
> his water bowl after they clean up after him.  THAT’S a rest stop.  You can
> even do this if you are a cyclist (and the road allows cyclists, some do).
> >
> > It would seem that in Australia and Italy, an entirely unique tag must
> be invented, or perhaps simply the individual amenities (building=roof,
> bicycle_parking=6 might be “all she wrote” for Goodna Creek) can be
> included on a node, nodes or tiny (beach-towel sized?) closed way.
> When I read the first mail in this thread I was imagining more complete
> rest areas as well like what you would find in Germany and Austria if
> they are newly built:
> https://www.google.com/search?q=radweg+rastplatz&tbm=isch
> Of course you won't find a restaurant there (although there exist some
> places along high-traffic routes such as Eurovelos that might even
> qualify for that having a fastfood kiosk) and almost never toilets but a
> convenient place to *rest*, i.e., a sheltered table with a bin directly
> beside the bike path.
> I wouldn't mind changing the definition of highway=rest_area to include
> such places that were built specifically for the purpose of hosting
> resting cyclists. If that's not an option I think it would make sense to
> introduce a new dedicated tag for that. The reasoning would be to easily
> query/render such places along a route that are fit for taking a break
> and conveniently eat something. In such a use case it is not that
> important what facilities are there exactly - just like when you plan
> your motorized travels and want to get an overview. In the past I have
> tagged the individual items there but I always felt the need to do more
> than that.
> --
> Kind regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Stefan Tauner
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