[Tagging] Is shelter=separate wanted? What is the meaning of shelter=yes

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Tue Jan 12 10:02:28 UTC 2021

Jan 12, 2021, 10:37 by dieterdreist at gmail.com:

> Am Di., 12. Jan. 2021 um 10:18 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <> tagging at openstreetmap.org> >:
>> It effectively redefined shelter=yes from "this bus stop has shelter" to 
>> "this bus stop has shelter that is not separately mapped"
> I would see it as redefining to "this bus stop has a shelter, which may have been separately mapped and in which case you are invited to change yes to separate". 
> It would take some time to be widely adopted, and in the meantime dataconsumers would have to treat "separate" as a "yes" value for some specific analysis (generally, if you are looking for the feature described in the property and not aware of the separate value, you would typically still catch the feature (shelter / atm etc.), as it is also explicitly mapped).
Note that data consumers would need to do it forever, this new tag just makes things
more confusing and introduces more work for mappers that is not useful.

> On the other hand, if you want to know the number of features in an area, it is important to avoid counting the same object several times because it is mapped and also "present" as a property.
You can count only shelter=yes without nearby amenity=shelter

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