[Tagging] Miniature railways and park trains

Tim Magee timothy at eastlincoln.net
Mon Jan 18 15:47:13 UTC 2021

> I am not sure if we should use attraction=train at all. I'd rather
> deprecate it because of the mess that it apparently was and still is.> Instead I propose to use railway=miniature for those rides that are
> actual railways that have (usually) multiple stations to get around a
> park or used for sightseeing without being connected to a true railway
> system (basically the current definition of railway=miniature). 

The problem here is that "railway=miniature" refers to the tracks, not
the "ride". I currently tag the tracks with "railway=miniature" and the
platform "attraction=train". A "railway=miniature" can exist with or
without an "attraction=train".

If we deprecate "attraction=train", we would need to have someway to
designate the platforms for miniature railways.

> I do
> not agree with your categorization of "attraction rather than […]
> transportation" (to be fair you wrote "primarily" but I want to stress
> this point). In many cases these can be both, attraction and
> transportation, and for some the latter aspect might be more important.
> I live near one where this applies:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prater_Liliputbahn

The ones with multiple stops are borderline public_transit.

> For the tractors with trailers disguised as trains I would introduce a
> new tag attraction=road_train. The term road train is mostly used for
> very big freight trucks but the key makes it clearly distinguishable
> and not a problem IMHO. These probably should be mapped as relations
> since they use existing streets.

I am totally fine with using a separate term for attraction=road_train
as those are 'fake trains' in my personal lexicon.

> The two above usually have multiple stops and extent spatially quite a
> bit in comparison to common attractions.

> However, there is a third
> related ride that you did not mention yet. They are not roller coasters
> in the sense that adults would get thrilled whatsoever but that target
> younger kids. Something like:
> https://youtu.be/Dq8Bfk97VnI?t=629
> https://www.oskarshausen.de/wp-content/uploads/photo-gallery/imported_from_media_libray/Fahrt-mit-dem-Minizug-Rummeltag-2019-Oskarshausen.jpg
> I have not tried to determine if and how these got mapped so far but I
> think we should document these 3 variants in the wiki with clear
> distinguishable features.

These should be tagged as something like attraction=child_roller_coaster
or something. They aren't "trains".

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