[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Shrubbery V2

[Paul Allen]

On Thursday, 15 July 2021, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> On 15 Jul 2021, at 10:24, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I didn't think you could come up with something that made less semantic
sense than your previous proposal but you have surpassed yourself.
>
>
> Paul, no need to combine your criticism with an introductory insult. This
could have been said the same way without personifying the statement.

You're right, I never learn.  When somebody egregiously makes the same
mistake after having it extensively pointed out to them the first time they
made it, I bring it to their attention.  Which makes me as guilty as him.
And you, despite your attempt to cloak it in politeness, nearly as guilty.


> I agree with the notion that this would be introducing semantical
problems, at least from what I have understood the term “scrub” means, and
its application on manicured shrubs in a garden, maybe it is still not too
much of a stretch.

For me that would be far too much of a stretch.  In appearance and in
typical species those are very different.  Using scrub to describe shrubs
would be like using landuse=grass for shrubs by adding tags to say that the
grass is tall, has very thick stems, and is bushy

>I think I would appreciate a tag for individual items (natural=shrub),

We already have that.  We need an area form because standard carto stopped
rendering area hedges (which was always a vile kluge anyway).

> so that natural=scrub remains a tag for areas,

It is a great tag for areas of scrub.  Not so good for areas that are not
scrub.

> and as there is already a well established tag for hedges (barrier=hedge
for which the suggested subtag “cultivated” could make sense)


I guarantee you that you have never seen a hedge, no matter how neglected
and unkempt, that did not start out cultivated.  It's not just a matter of
planting an appropriate species in a row, saplings have the stems partially
severed so the tops can be bent at 90 degrees to touch the next sapling.

It doesn't seem sensible to tag how long since a hedge was last trimmed as
that could change tomorrow.  An unmaintained hedge might become passable at
some point or points along its length but that would require a ground
survey to find out, and might be fixed the next day with some barbed wire.

-- 
Paul
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