[Tagging] man_made=courtyard tag chronology

[nathan case]

Thanks Robin and Graeme for your input.


> I think responsible is ID..... They have a preset for man_made=courtyard
Ah, it could be. I see it was recently discussed in iD regarding translations: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/7601



>> Had a play in Overpass & found a couple that were done 2 weeks ago, which seem to be connected with schools in the US, so that may give you a lead?:

>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/944035199

>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/942301926

> My opinion -> this should be a multipolygon....
I agree that it would appear these should be multipolygon relations but could see why the inner polygon could be man_made=courtyard. Even if it is a covered courtyard, I would suggest using covered=yes, rather than having it part of the main building.



>> Also spotted a couple that have been tagged as courtyards although it would appear that they're only simple fenced off areas?

>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/356269649

>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/908917992

> Confusing... I have found some texts where courtyard also is used as a synonym for farm/farmyard.... But this wound fit here also.....

I don’t think either of those, or using as a farmyard, are correct. However, the tag is undocumented – so it’s not surprising that it’s being used in odd ways.



I think I’ll go ahead and create a Wiki page for this tag, using current examples, dictionary definitions, and the proposal as a base.

Cheers.

Nathan


From: Robin Burek <robin.burek at gmx.de>
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 7:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] man_made=courtyard tag chronology




On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 at 00:37, nathan case <nathancase at outlook.com<mailto:nathancase at outlook.com>> wrote:
I’m just wondering what’s the best way to investigate this sudden surge in usage? Can I find out who/where is responsible for it? Note: I’m not at all saying it’s malicious, it would just be interesting to know what’s driven this surge so that I can write a sensible Wiki entry for it.

I think responsible is ID..... They have a preset for man_made=courtyard

I really ask - do we need a tagging for this? To make a courtyard visible, there are multipolygons..... Building outline as outer and the courtyard outline as inner.....

Had a play in Overpass & found a couple that were done 2 weeks ago, which seem to be connected with schools in the US, so that may give you a lead?:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/944035199

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/942301926

My opinion -> this should be a multipolygon....

Also spotted a couple that have been tagged as courtyards although it would appear that they're only simple fenced off areas?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/356269649

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/908917992
Confusing... I have found some texts where courtyard also is used as a synonym for farm/farmyard.... But this wound fit here also.....
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