[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Check dam
Warin
61sundowner at gmail.com
Wed Jun 9 08:00:01 UTC 2021
On 8/6/21 1:40 pm, Yves via Tagging wrote:
> What I see when I look for pictures of check dams are structures that
> limit the flow. Contrary to what I expect from a weir, the water goes
> trough or under.
> That would deserve a tag or subtag to make them distinct from weirs.
Detention pond?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:basin%3Ddetention
> Regards,
> Yves
>
> Le 7 juin 2021 23:28:02 GMT+02:00, Enno Hermann
> <enno.hermann at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 6:03 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
> <tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Check_dam_on_Miya_River_(Jinzu_River).jpg
> for me it looks like waterway=weir
>
> "Solid check dams usually have water flowing over only a small
> part of their width and
> are designed to handle sudden increases in water flow."
>
> Are you sure that thing depicted on image is not also a weir?
>
>
> I agree that it's not the best example and from this picture alone
> it could be hard to tell, although the construction is typical for
> check dams. I managed to find the location and on Google
> Streetview (https://goo.gl/maps/PrtuW627ndkc3NbX7) or the Japan
> GSI seamlessphoto imagery (https://osm.org/go/7QeF1CmI6) the water
> level is clearly different and water seems to be flowing only
> through the bottom of the structure. Given that, the mountainous
> terrain and similar structures nearby I would say it is clearly a
> check dam.
>
> And "designed to handle sudden increases in water flow." is
> applicable to
> any sanely constructed waterway engineering.
>
>
> "sudden and significant" might fit better. Often those streams are
> normally only a trickle or even completely dry but then can see
> sudden debris flows like this:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rfuoylv34k This is different from
> floods on already larger rivers.
>
> See
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Culverts_under_yass_river_walkway_weir.JPG
> on Wikipedia weir page.
>
> Or
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grial%C3%ABces_cuecenes.jpg
> with description
> "During periods of high river flow, this nineteenth century
> weir of porphyry stone on
> a creek in the Alps would have significantly more water
> flowing over it."
>
>
> An early example of a check dam? ;) I'd say very small structures
> or simple constructions that can't be clearly identified as a
> check dam may just be tagged as weirs.
>
>
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