[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Check dam
Yves
ycai at mailbox.org
Wed Jun 9 15:24:46 UTC 2021
Not quite, and anyway a 'detention pond' would be behind the dam, not the structure itself.
Regards, Yves
Le 9 juin 2021 10:00:01 GMT+02:00, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> a écrit :
>On 8/6/21 1:40 pm, Yves via Tagging wrote:
>> What I see when I look for pictures of check dams are structures that
>> limit the flow. Contrary to what I expect from a weir, the water goes
>> trough or under.
>> That would deserve a tag or subtag to make them distinct from weirs.
>
>Detention pond?
>
>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:basin%3Ddetention
>
>
>> Regards,
>> Yves
>>
>> Le 7 juin 2021 23:28:02 GMT+02:00, Enno Hermann
>> <enno.hermann at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 6:03 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
>> <tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Check_dam_on_Miya_River_(Jinzu_River).jpg
>> for me it looks like waterway=weir
>>
>> "Solid check dams usually have water flowing over only a small
>> part of their width and
>> are designed to handle sudden increases in water flow."
>>
>> Are you sure that thing depicted on image is not also a weir?
>>
>>
>> I agree that it's not the best example and from this picture alone
>> it could be hard to tell, although the construction is typical for
>> check dams. I managed to find the location and on Google
>> Streetview (https://goo.gl/maps/PrtuW627ndkc3NbX7) or the Japan
>> GSI seamlessphoto imagery (https://osm.org/go/7QeF1CmI6) the water
>> level is clearly different and water seems to be flowing only
>> through the bottom of the structure. Given that, the mountainous
>> terrain and similar structures nearby I would say it is clearly a
>> check dam.
>>
>> And "designed to handle sudden increases in water flow." is
>> applicable to
>> any sanely constructed waterway engineering.
>>
>>
>> "sudden and significant" might fit better. Often those streams are
>> normally only a trickle or even completely dry but then can see
>> sudden debris flows like this:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rfuoylv34k This is different from
>> floods on already larger rivers.
>>
>> See
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Culverts_under_yass_river_walkway_weir.JPG
>> on Wikipedia weir page.
>>
>> Or
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grial%C3%ABces_cuecenes.jpg
>> with description
>> "During periods of high river flow, this nineteenth century
>> weir of porphyry stone on
>> a creek in the Alps would have significantly more water
>> flowing over it."
>>
>>
>> An early example of a check dam? ;) I'd say very small structures
>> or simple constructions that can't be clearly identified as a
>> check dam may just be tagged as weirs.
>>
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