[Tagging] hiking route from= and to= tags

[Peter Elderson]

Hi Kevin,

No, no, I am not saying it's always wrong and I am not going to "correct"
any routes I don't know!

Where I am tagging and maintaining routes, I have done a lot of tagging I
know for sure is wrong, because I have walked them myself, I know
the operators and the facebook groups for nearly all the hiking trails in
Nederland,  and I do a lot of maintenance  on the relations. I also know
for a fact that OSM communities and hiking operators in other countries
also (ab)use the name tag for all kinds of extra information, to get nice
and ordered lists.

I would like to help improve that, but only if alternatives are developed
for the (IMO)  legitimate reasons why people do this!

Peter Elderson


Op zo 27 jun. 2021 om 22:09 schreef Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com>:

> Also, don't assume that start and end points can't be part of a trail
> name.  Names like "Ramapo-Dunderberg Trail", "Neversink-Hardenbergh Trail",
> or "Mount Van Hoevenberg Trail to Marcy", where the trail is named for its
> endpoints, are quite common where I hike.  Some of these, like the 220-km
> Northville-Placid Trail, are quite regionally significant.  (Most of these
> trail names are unsigned or signed very infrequently, because excessive
> signage in a wilderness area is frowned upon. But pretty much all the trail
> maps, whether from the hiking clubs or publishers like National Geographic,
> show the names, and the hikers know them.) So, Peter, please don't assume
> that `name` tags in my part of the world are mistagged!
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 3:00 PM Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Vr gr Peter Elderson
>>
>>
>> Op vr 25 jun. 2021 om 22:26 schreef michael spreng
>>
>>> But knowing the start and end of each segment (which was used as the
>>> name) helps maintaining the hiking network. So the change will add the
>>> from=* and to=* tags to the Swiss wiki page to map the start and end
>>> place. That way, the name tag does not get misused, and the data is
>>> still there for mappers to use for maintenance.
>>
>>
>>  How are these basic segments used by data users / end users?  I mean,
>> not on the road but the information in OSM? Is there a router for it, or a
>> planning application, or a special map visualising the basic network,
>> anything available to the non-OSM savvy public to help with their hiking
>> trips?
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