[Tagging] When does highway=footway become highway=pedestrian?

[Mateusz Konieczny]

For me it looks like a sidewalk, maybe a bit wider than usual. I would use

highway=footway (with very optional area:highway=footway area)

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use sidewalk tags on road, if that would be a local standard.

highway=pedestrian
or
highway=pedestrian area=yes

seems to be not fitting for this, in my opinion.


Oct 27, 2021, 16:43 by nathancase at outlook.com:

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> From:>  Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <tagging at openstreetmap.org> 
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> Oct 26, 2021, 16:00 by >  nathancase at outlook.com> :
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>> I’ve just posted this on the Wiki discussion page (>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dpedestrian#.22For_town_centres_and_civic_areas.22>> ) but the thread is a little old and I know not everyone reads the Wiki anyway…
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>> I’m wondering at what point, if at all, a highway=footway becomes highway=pedestrian (i.e., a pedestrian area)? 
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>> I have an example (>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/365487665#map=18/52.44601/-1.81904>> ) of a sidewalk that has been mapped as a pedestrian area. It is certainly quite wide (around 7-8 m in places) and is located within a town centre/civic area. It even has painted markings (since COVID-19 pandemic began) splitting the direction of travel for pedestrians - though this is, of course, entirely ignored by everyone walking there.
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>> However, it is, fundamentally, just a wide paved area for pedestrians that runs parallel and adjacent to the main carriageway (road) – i.e. a sidewalk.
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>> Do we define particularly wide sidewalks as pedestrian areas? They do seem to match most of the criteria listed on the Wiki but it doesn’t seem to quite fit for me.
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