[Tagging] no:XX versus not:XX for non-existing objects

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Mon Sep 20 08:31:29 UTC 2021


On 19/9/21 8:39 pm, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote:
> private;
> you need to go to the person who wrote it.


There is no 'need'.

It would be a curtsy, but it is not a requirement.


>     Sunday, September 19, 2021 3:25 AM -05:00 from Jan Michel
>     <jan at mueschelsoft.de>:
>     Dear all,
>     we currently have two different prefixes for things that are not what
>     they seem to be or might have been:
>
>     no:XX
>     - 200 uses with 20 different keys
>     - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:no
>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:no>:
>     - https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=no%3A
>     <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=no%3A>
>
>     not:XX
>     - 20k uses with 200 different keys
>     - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:not
>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:not>:
>     - https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=not%3A
>     <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=not%3A>
>
>     Both Wiki pages read almost identical, with slightly different
>     stress on objects that don't exist any more but are still visible on
>     images versus objects that never existed but could be assumed to be
>     there.
>
>     I think the current situation with two almost identical tags is a bit
>     unfortunate and should be resolved.
>     I see two possible options here:
>
>     - define the different scopes of the two tags more clearly and stress
>        the differences on both Wiki pages.
>
>     - mark the less used 'no:' prefix as deprecated and favor the quite
>        common 'not:' prefix instead.
>
>
>
>     Jan
>
>
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