[Tagging] Admin Boundary admin_centre or label roles

[Brian M. Sperlongano]

My understanding is that admin_centre is for a subordinate administrative
entity that functions as a capital of sorts for the containing entity.  So
the admin_centre for Massachusetts would be the node for Boston, and for
counties that have a county seat, it would be the node associated with
whichever city/town is the seat.  For administrative entities that don't
have a boundary/capital relationship, I think the admin_centre role should
not be set.

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 10:30 AM Alex Iannicelli <atiannicelli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Question about admin boundary relation `role=admin_centre` when
> `admin_level` = 7 or 8 (city or town).
>
> The wiki describes admin center
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:boundary#Relation_members> as
> a "Node representing the administrative centre (a capital, county seat
> etc.), usually a town, city or village. This role is for capitals (as in
> capital cities), not capitols (as in legislative buildings)."
>
> This makes sense for `admin_level` less than 7 to have `admin_centre`,
> but, what is the administrative center of a city? It seems that many cities
> in OSM have assigned the `admin_centre` role to a node that represents the
> city itself, but it doesn't seem to make sense that we would say that the
> administrative center of the city of Boston is Boston.
> I think that when dealing with city relations, the `label` role should be
> assigned to the node that represents the city. I would propose that the Boston
> Node <https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/158809705> should be the `label`
> role for the Boston Relation
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2315704> and not be the
> `admin_centre` role.
>
> Note: Same goes for Paris <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1641193>
>
> If people agree with making a city node have the `label` role for the
> city's relation, then what should the `admin_centre` of a city be? The same
> as `label`? or should we remove the admin_centre for cities?
>
> I am trying to figure out if I can create a MapRoulette challenge to go
> and fix some or all of these cases, but I want to make sure that there is
> consensus on how to handle this since they are admin boundaries.
>
> Alex
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