[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Cash acceptance at PoS

Philip Barnes phil at trigpoint.me.uk
Fri Apr 15 11:19:11 UTC 2022


On Fri, 2022-04-15 at 12:17 +0200, Thibault Molleman via Tagging wrote:
> Also, the ruling might differ from country to country. Here in
> Belgium, cash is a legitimate method of pay in shops BUT vending
> machines for example can be card only. So there's nuances everywhere.
> And let's be honest: tourists don't do enough research before their
> trip. If they can see it on something osm based, they'll know for
> certain.

Although a tourist is unlikely to leave home without their cards, my
usual checklist is 
1. Passport
2. Credit Card

Anything else I've forgotten I can buy.

Back before the Euro was a thing I would commonly find places that took
cards if all I was going to do in a country was to buy lunch, as it was
too much hassle to change cash and end up with a pile of shracknell
that cannot be changed back.

Phil (trigpoint)



> 
> Cheers,
> Thibault
> 
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 12:15, Thibault Molleman
> <thibaultmolleman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think for something like this it's justified though.
> > "acceptance of cash is the default ASSUMPTION"
> > if the shop has no tags, it's unknown.
> > if it has the tag payment:cash=yes then you're certain.
> > if it has the tag payment:cash=no then you're also certain.
> > 
> > If something isn't tagged, openstreetmap can't know.
> > 
> > Why would tagging that be a bad thing?
> > 
> > This is different from not tagging a city name on every house in
> > that city, because there the relation of the city can be used to
> > determine it, software wise.
> > 
> > cheers,
> > Thibault
> > 
> > On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 11:57, Frederik Ramm - frederik at
> > remote.org
> > <qygoefidlhmfkyqmhyllhlltnzfmaalakfukjfxphopxl at simplelogin.co>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > please note that in many regions the acceptance of cash is the
> > > default 
> > > assumption. I would be VERY unhappy if "members of the cash
> > > community" 
> > > started to tag every shop in my country with "payment:cash=yes"
> > > just for 
> > > the shop to appear on someone's "cash accepted here" page, and I
> > > would 
> > > likely revert such an edit if I found it to be an organised
> > > effort.
> > > 
> > > On the other hand of course it makes sense to tag those shops
> > > that 
> > > deviate from the national default and reject cash payments with 
> > > "payment:cash=no".
> > > 
> > > I welcome your interest in this matter (as I myself am wary of
> > > the 
> > > decline of cash as a privacy-friendly payment method) but please
> > > do not 
> > > make the same mistake that other enthusiasts sometimes make and
> > > build a 
> > > simple website that then (because instead of working with
> > > sensible 
> > > standard assumptions) claims that hundreds of thousands of shops
> > > in the 
> > > country don't accept cash just because they don't have a
> > > payment:cash=yes.
> > > 
> > > Bye
> > > Frederik
> > > 
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