[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Cash acceptance at PoS

[Philip Barnes]

On Fri, 2022-04-15 at 21:12 +1000, Warin wrote:
> I expect cash is 'legal tender' the world over - otherwise why would
> the governments be making it? (Apologizes to those places without
> their own money - presumably they use someone else's money in lieu). 
> However that does not compel a business to accept cash. In Australia
> a firm can put up signs to exclude cash payments and it is 'legal'.
> Fortunately being 'cashless' is seldom the case, the vast majority
> accept cash. In some areas I expect them not to take cards because
> the internet speeds are slow and it is less then reliable, cash there
> is king. 
> Defaults take away a lot of data bloat, while storage is cheap these
> days .. data transfer is not, particularly large bits of data. If all
> default values were tagged on every thing in OSM I think the increase
> in size would be large. 

Some quite large chains in the UK do not accept cash, at least my local
one do not. The biggest I know of being Currys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currys

Phil (trigpoint)





> On 15/4/22 20:17, Thibault Molleman via Tagging wrote:
>  
> >  
> > Also, the ruling might differ from country to country. Here in
> > Belgium, cash is a legitimate method of pay in shops BUT vending
> > machines for example can be card only. So there's nuances
> > everywhere.
> > And let's be honest: tourists don't do enough research before their
> > trip. If they can see it on something osm based, they'll know for
> > certain.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Thibault
> >  
> > On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 12:15, Thibault Molleman
> > <thibaultmolleman at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> > > I think for something like this it's justified though.
> > > "acceptance of cash is the default ASSUMPTION"
> > > if the shop has no tags, it's unknown.
> > > if it has the tag payment:cash=yes then you're certain.
> > > if it has the tag payment:cash=no then you're also certain.
> > > 
> > > If something isn't tagged, openstreetmap can't know.
> > > 
> > > Why would tagging that be a bad thing?
> > > 
> > > This is different from not tagging a city name on every house in
> > > that city, because there the relation of the city can be used to
> > > determine it, software wise.
> > > 
> > > cheers,
> > > Thibault
> > >  
> > > On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 11:57, Frederik Ramm - frederik at
> > > remote.org
> > > <qygoefidlhmfkyqmhyllhlltnzfmaalakfukjfxphopxl at simplelogin.co>
> > > wrote:
> > >  
> > > > Hi,
> > > >  
> > > >  please note that in many regions the acceptance of cash is the
> > > > default 
> > > >  assumption. I would be VERY unhappy if "members of the cash
> > > > community" 
> > > >  started to tag every shop in my country with
> > > > "payment:cash=yes" just for 
> > > >  the shop to appear on someone's "cash accepted here" page, and
> > > > I would 
> > > >  likely revert such an edit if I found it to be an organised
> > > > effort.
> > > >  
> > > >  On the other hand of course it makes sense to tag those shops
> > > > that 
> > > >  deviate from the national default and reject cash payments
> > > > with 
> > > >  "payment:cash=no".
> > > >  
> > > >  I welcome your interest in this matter (as I myself am wary of
> > > > the 
> > > >  decline of cash as a privacy-friendly payment method) but
> > > > please do not 
> > > >  make the same mistake that other enthusiasts sometimes make
> > > > and build a 
> > > >  simple website that then (because instead of working with
> > > > sensible 
> > > >  standard assumptions) claims that hundreds of thousands of
> > > > shops in the 
> > > >  country don't accept cash just because they don't have a
> > > > payment:cash=yes.
> > > >  
> > > >  Bye
> > > >  Frederik
> > > >  
> > > >  -- 
> > > >  Frederik Ramm  ##  eMail frederik at remote.org  ##  N49°00'09"
> > > > E008°23'33"
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