[Tagging] Delete vs Removed LSP?

Dave F davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com
Mon Apr 25 13:51:16 UTC 2022


Resending as Timothy's reply was only sent to me:

On 25/04/2022 12:19, Timothy Noname wrote:
> LSP = Life Cycle Prefix.

?!?

>
> Changing amenity=telephone to removed:amenity=telephone

Then remove it from OSM.

>
> I sometimes add Postboxes I see on mapillary, but it's always possible 
> they were previously mapped and removed because they don't exist anymore.

If you're uncertain about something, then don't add it. If you don't 
have local/ground truth knowledge you could be adding false data into OSM.
Assuming third party imagery is accurate is poor mapping & an example of 
why i don't like 'tools' such as maproulette.
Add a note to the website asking for local knowledge to check if 
something still exists.

> It can be the same with buildings on BING imagery.
>
> Leaving a removed: item helps prevent that, until the space is 
> redeveloped and replaced with something else.

How far back should we go? i live in a Roman city. That's a /lot/ of 
removed data.

To repeat: "a place for mapping things that are both /real and current/ "

DaveF

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On 25/04/2022 12:19, Timothy Noname wrote:
> LSP = Life Cycle Prefix.
>
> Changing amenity=telephone to removed:amenity=telephone
>
> I sometimes add Postboxes I see on mapillary, but it's always possible 
> they were previously mapped and removed because they don't exist 
> anymore. It can be the same with buildings on BING imagery.
>
> Leaving a removed: item helps prevent that, until the space is 
> redeveloped and replaced with something else.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022, 11:12 Dave F, <davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi
>
>     What is 'LSP'?
>
>
>     OSM is not a historical map.
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/welcome:
>
>     "a place for mapping things that are both /real and current/ "
>
>     If features are completely removed, then remove the entity from
>     OSM. If is still in existence but unused the 'disused:' prefix can
>     be added.
>
>     DaveF
>
>     On 25/04/2022 10:28, Timothy Noname wrote:
>>     I'm thinking about amenities like Telephone boxes and Postal
>>     boxes. If they have been removed you can either delete them from
>>     OSM or tag then with the removed life cycle prefix. The advantage
>>     of the second is that it might prevent someone re-adding the
>>     feature using old imagery or survey information.
>>     Is this the preferred approach or is there some problem with this
>>     approach?
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
>
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