[Tagging] fix the suggestion for replacement for pipeline=marker into marker=* + subject=pipeline ?

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Wed Aug 31 09:42:12 UTC 2022


pipeline=marker seems clearly preferable to me 

>From reading https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:pipeline%3Dmarker
it is unclear to me with what it is supposed to be replaced and why it is
deprecated

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:pipeline%3Dmarker&diff=1917303&oldid=1639365
is mentioning some approved proposal

It is probably 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?oldid=2261391#Values_to_be_replaced
and relies on bad assumption that people will always be able to tag and want to
tag specific utility of pipeline

I would support undeprecating it, or at least noting problems on the page.

Aug 31, 2022, 10:59 by pelderson at gmail.com:

> Hi,
>
> The idea looks very much okay to me, but I am not into utility markers at all, so I didn't feel safe to contribute.
>
> Just hiking trail symbol markings, which are not usually mapped as features in themselves. I hope this proposal does not extend to those.
>
> I do encounter a lot of markers on my hiking sprees, usually I don't know what they indicate, and with your proposed tagging I can map them. 
> subject=* sounds too vague/broad to me.
> It's probably because there are markers for other things than utilities.
>
> Fr gr Peter Elderson
>
>
> Op wo 31 aug. 2022 om 10:29 schreef Marc_marc <> marc_marc at mailo.com> >:
>
>> any opinion?
>>  
>>  Le 11.08.22 à 12:01, Marc_marc a écrit :
>>  > Hello,
>>  > 
>>  > on the talk-fr list, I raised the inconsistency around
>>  > the deprecated tag pipeline=marker
>>  > 
>>  > this tag contains 2 pieces of information:
>>  > - there is a marker
>>  > - it is relative to a pipeline
>>  > 
>>  > the deprecated tags page proposes to replace it with
>>  > - marker=* : it's a marker of this form
>>  > - utility=* to describe the user of the pipeline content
>>  > 
>>  > although useful to anyone, this second tag is an addition; this
>>  > data is not present in the deprecated tag.
>>  > and conversely, the information that it is relative to a pipeline
>>  > is lost in the suggestion for replacement.
>>  > 
>>  > we came to the idea that it would be useful to fix the suggestion
>>  > for replacement for pipeline=marker into marker=* + subject=pipeline
>>  > 
>>  > What do you think?
>>  > 
>>  > Regards,
>>  > Marc
>>  
>>  
>>  
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