[Tagging] RFC #2: Lake, pond, and reservoir proposal

[Volker Schmidt]

Brian's "riverbank" automated edit has caused a lot of problems, in
particular it removed river islands and it perpetuated a large number of
riverbank-related errors (by creating new dates for the new data with
errors copied from the old data). As the edits were not declared as
automatic, there are no reasons to doubt the quality of the data. The error
types, at least in my area, are widespread import errors (riverbanks
derived from landuse data based on landownership, and not on water-land
borders, and falsely connected waterways, that are in reality passing one
over the other).
Please do not repeat the same errors again. As far as I can see the
riverbank replacement stopped somewhere at half point and the clean-up
effect is null, as data users have now to take into account the old and the
new tagging schems

On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 14:20, Dave F via Tagging <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
wrote:

> Hi
>
> I agree that landuse=reservoir tag should be swapped to natural=water,
> water=reservoir. It will fit in with all the other water=* tags. Britain
> is now devoid of 'waterway=riverbank' 'landuse=lake' tags
>
> I see no reason why it can't be done on mass. It was why the software to
> do it was written. There will be no creation of new errors, just
> existing ones moved to a different tag. Automatic edits will always
> produce fewer errors than anyone mistyping or selecting the incorrect
> choice from a pop down menu when editing individual objects.
>
> The other part of your proposal is bound to be more problematic as the
> decisions are subjective, but should been seen as separate & not hinder
> the tag swap.
>
> Water=* is a more extensible tag than landuse so is better suited to
> accommodate all the different varieties mentioned in this thread.
>
>
> I think landuse=basin
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dbasin
> Should have the same red box warning that landuse=reservoir had. Unsure
> why a user felt the need to amend it today.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:landuse%3Dreservoir&oldid=2172356
>
> Cheers
> DaveF
>
>
> On 14/12/2021 04:05, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am re-starting an RFC for my proposal[1] for lakes, ponds, and
> > reservoirs.  This proposal deprecates landuse=reservoir in favor of
> > natural=water + water=reservoir, and adopts improved definitions for
> > lake, pond, and reservoir.  This proposal was first proposed[2] around
> > this time last year, in which I received and incorporated significant
> > feedback.  Given the large gap in time since this was last discussed,
> > I am opening a second RFC period in order to allow for any renewed
> > discussion.
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Reservoir
> > [2]
> >
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-December/057073.html
> >
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