[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Deprecated embassy=embassy

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I agree with Yves, there is no reason to kill this discussion.

 

Having read the proposal, I find that the proposed steps of:

a) requesting iD to stop offering the embassy=embassy value
b) adding embassy=embassy as Possible Tagging Mistakes to the relevant pages

c) adding it to the Deprecated features page
d) adding it to the Changelog page

are all eminently reasonable.

 

And in fact, we “vote on deprecating stuff”. All. The. Time. It’s just that it’s generally part of a larger proposal that introduces something else new at the same time.

 

If anything, I would argue that the steps listed above should already have been taken at the time that https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/office%3Ddiplomatic was approved.

 

And I think it would be acceptable to take these steps now even without voting on it.

 

Though opening this RFC as a courtesy before doing so is welcome and I find Frederik’s attempt at smothering the discussion to be quite misplaced.

 

Cheers,

Thorsten

 

From: Yves via Tagging <tagging at openstreetmap.org> 
Sent: Friday, 7 January 2022 21:01
To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging at openstreetmap.org>; Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>; tagging at openstreetmap.org
Cc: Yves <ycai at mailbox.org>
Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Deprecated embassy=embassy

 

I do understand that a 'request for comment' is a good way to start a discussion. Also a 'vote' is a good way to check if consensus exists.

I don't understand why mechanical edit is even mentioned here?! If even a consensus is found, there's a lot to do with data consumers and editors, and eventually mechanical edit is maybe an option.
We should let the discussion live. 
Regards,
Yves 

Le 7 janvier 2022 10:54:56 GMT+01:00, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org <mailto:frederik at remote.org> > a écrit :

Hi,

we don't vote on deprecating stuff.

Even if something is deprecated in the course of some vote, we never
automatically change all the old tagging to new.

You say that embassy=embassy has "implicitly been deprecated" already
and you complain that it is still "massively used".

A vote on an explicit deprecation of embassy=embassy will not magically
make this "massive use" go away and will not be a justification for a
mass edit.

So I don't know what it is you want to achieve with this vote.

If you want to mechanically edit all embassy=embassy to embassy=yes then
this is not the right procedure; you have to start a consultation
according to the rules for mechanical edits, not a tag vote.

Bye
Frederik
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