[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Deprecated embassy=embassy

[Simon Poole]

Am 07.01.2022 um 13:46 schrieb osm.tagging at thorsten.engler.id.au:
> ..
>
> And in fact, we “vote on deprecating stuff”. All. The. Time. It’s just 
> that it’s generally part of a larger proposal that introduces 
> something else new at the same time.
>
>  ...
>
You shouldn't mistake humouring the tagging list and not being bothered 
enough to point this out every time, with agreeing that such decisions 
are in any way binding or otherwise valid, just that they are in general 
so unimportant to slide under the radar (for example the endless power 
something replacement and deprecations of stuff that was just introduced).
...
>
> If anything, I would argue that the steps listed above should already 
> have been taken at the time that 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/office%3Ddiplomatic 
> was approved.
>
> And I think it would be acceptable to take these steps now even 
> without voting on it.
>
> Though opening this RFC as a courtesy before doing so is welcome
>
As I've already been pointed out there is nothing to actually 
'deprecate', the use of the tagging is just a technical glitch with iD.

Simon

> and I find Frederik’s attempt at smothering the discussion to be quite 
> misplaced.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thorsten
>
> *From:*Yves via Tagging <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, 7 January 2022 21:01
> *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools 
> <tagging at openstreetmap.org>; Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>; 
> tagging at openstreetmap.org
> *Cc:* Yves <ycai at mailbox.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Deprecated 
> embassy=embassy
>
> I do understand that a 'request for comment' is a good way to start a 
> discussion. Also a 'vote' is a good way to check if consensus exists.
>
> I don't understand why mechanical edit is even mentioned here?! If 
> even a consensus is found, there's a lot to do with data consumers and 
> editors, and eventually mechanical edit is maybe an option.
> We should let the discussion live.
> Regards,
> Yves
>
> Le 7 janvier 2022 10:54:56 GMT+01:00, Frederik Ramm 
> <frederik at remote.org> a écrit :
>
>     Hi,
>
>     we don't vote on deprecating stuff.
>
>     Even if something is deprecated in the course of some vote, we never
>     automatically change all the old tagging to new.
>
>     You say that embassy=embassy has "implicitly been deprecated" already
>     and you complain that it is still "massively used".
>
>     A vote on an explicit deprecation of embassy=embassy will not magically
>     make this "massive use" go away and will not be a justification for a
>     mass edit.
>
>     So I don't know what it is you want to achieve with this vote.
>
>     If you want to mechanically edit all embassy=embassy to embassy=yes then
>     this is not the right procedure; you have to start a consultation
>     according to the rules for mechanical edits, not a tag vote.
>
>     Bye
>     Frederik
>
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