[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Deprecated embassy=embassy
Simon Poole
simon at poole.ch
Fri Jan 7 13:46:45 UTC 2022
I think there is a bit of confusion here.
embassy=embassy
seems to exist because of an iD feedback loop
(https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/embassy=embassy#chronology) and
probably originally goes back to somebody mistakenly using it, it
doesn't seem to have been to ever been documented and as a result
there's nothing really to deprecate to start with.
Simply make a pull request on
https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/blob/9fdecc983443ce75185c2923caae9f7703f2cae4/data/fields/embassy.json
including the the documented value.
And yes using taginfo values can lead to these kind of issues, see my
talk at SOTM Milan.
Simon
Am 07.01.2022 um 07:47 schrieb Florian LAINEZ:
> Hi Joseph,
> I'm not proposing to approve embassy=yes, it's already approved cf.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:embassy%3Dyes
>
> I propose to:
>
> * Deprecate embassy
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:embassy>=embassy
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:embassy%3Dembassy&action=edit&redlink=1>
> * Promote instead embassy
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:embassy>=yes
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:embassy%3Dyes>
>
> Changing embassy=yes to embassy=/a more detailed value /is a separate
> topic for later. It's not part of the current proposal.
>
> Le jeu. 6 janv. 2022 à 19:16, Joseph Eisenberg
> <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Usually when a tag is deprecated, a new tagging method is approved
> to replace it.
>
> Are you proposing to approve the tag "embassy=yes" as the proper
> replacement for "embassy=embassy" in most cases?
>
> The page for "embassy=yes" says "Bears a sign labeling it as an
> embassy and is headed by an ambassador"
>
> It appears there are a number of different options:
> embassy=branch_embassy, embassy=delegation, etc
>
> Perhaps you meant to propose that "embassy=embassy" should be
> re-tagged to one of the more specific options under Key:embassy?
>
> - Joseph Eisenberg
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 2:26 AM Florian LAINEZ <winnerflo at free.fr>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Simon, thanks for your reply.
> That's right, for now, the depreciation have mostly been
> included into tag proposals. Most of them are implicit, but
> some are definitely explicit eg. office=goverment
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?oldid=1551112#Discouraged_tags>
> ; water=*
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_details#Deprecation>
> ; hazard=*
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hazard#Features.2FPages_affected>.
> Therefore I don't see anything stopping us to vote an explicit
> depreciation.
> As the proposal process is to "vote on a standard way to tag
> map features", it should also be used to vote on a standard
> way NOT to tag features.
>
> Also, if we want to properly deprecate some useless tags, I
> believe that we should agree over its deprecation first.
> For the users of the data (renders, editors, routers and
> more), it's a clear sign to stop using the deprecated tag.
> For the community, it's a green light for a smooth transition
> of tag.
>
> Le mer. 5 janv. 2022 à 20:58, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> a
> écrit :
>
> I don't believe there is any consensus on a procedure for
> deprecating tags, if that is even a thing.
>
> Am 05.01.2022 um 16:54 schrieb Florian LAINEZ:
>> Hi,
>> I propose to deprecate embassy=embassy, see
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/deprecate_embassy%3Dembassy
>> Comments are open on the discussion page of the wiki
>> before voting.
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Florian Lainez*
>>
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