[Tagging] graves and relations

[Minh Nguyen]

Vào lúc 14:16 2022-01-23, Martin Koppenhoefer đã viết:
> Are there really memorials for so many people with wikidata entries that a relation is technically required? Almost nobody  (compared to the total number, every village and every quarter has its world war memorial) on these memorials has a wikidata object, nor is it likely they will ever get one.

In principle, a Wikidata item could be created about any clearly marked 
burial site: a mere Find a Grave memorial ID [1] is enough to satisfy 
Wikidata's notability guidelines [2], and I wouldn't be surprised if 
someone is running a bot to automatically synchronize the two sites. 
Find a Grave only requires a photo of the grave for verification; 
however, its coverage probably varies greatly by region, given the level 
of effort required.

Even if a person has their own Wikidata item, that in itself isn't a 
reason to create a relation for them. If we really need to distinguish 
between the person and their burial site, then the burial site can be 
tagged with buried:wikidata=*. Each memorial to the person can be 
separately tagged with subject:wikidata=*.

The only person relation I've personally encountered [3] was added 
before Wikidata existed and has only ever been touched by continent- or 
world-spanning edits, mostly in a long-running tug-of-war between people 
who think this type of relation should exist and those who don't. I must 
admit that, when I first heard of this relation type, I thought it was 
some kind of scheme for tracking the distribution of relics...

[1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P535
[2] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1496779160#2
[3] https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2511501/history

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