[Tagging] compressed_air=yes / no - adding to amenity=fuel

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Jan 26, 2022, 08:59 by robin.burek at gmx.de:

> Am 25.01.2022 um 15:17 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging:
>
>> Relations are horrible and obnoxious to edit and maintain.
>> It gets even worse for newbies trying to map.
>>
> Your opinion. There is more the problem at the software, than the
> mapper. When the software would be able to connect objects easely, then
> there shouldn't be a problem; e.g a preset for "amenity=fuel" have a
> field "copressed air station" when you select this you can either set a
> new node or select an existing object.... Why should this be so horrible
> to edit?
> Sorry, but something like this is a standard UI version in the 21st
> century....
>
1) it is not easy to create such software (speaking as one of authors
of OSM editors). Feel free to submit patches to iD/Vespucci/JOSM
that would make editing such relations not utterly terrible, but
note that it would be a massive - maybe impossible - task.

2) you covered solely creation of new objects, this is relatively easy
(note that I have not mentioned relation creation in my comment).
Handling editing, display, deletion are bigger challenges.
And I am dubious even about your proposed interface.

3) I am speaking about current situation - not about theoretical not
existing software. That may be impossible to create.

4) editing and maintaining such relation would be 
obnoxious/horrible/annoying/blocking to vast majority of people, 
including people that can deal with already existing complexity
(situation for people scared already by existing complexity 
is much worse).

This is based on testing much simpler editor with a decent
sample of people and teaching people how to use far simpler
software

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Relations are horrible to edit and making it different ranges from
tricky/complex/time-consuming to requiring horrific amount of work
and being flatly impossible.

Adding more relations without a really convincing reason and
doable plan to mitigate damage is a bad idea.
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