[Tagging] River crossing grade

[Sinus Pi]

How about a different approach to the stepping stones...

What do you call a (usually, but not always) man-made structure that allows
you to cross a waterway dry-footed? A bridge.
Is a plank thrown over a stream a bridge? Likely.
Is a log fallen over the river, now commonly used as a crossing, a bridge?
Kind of.
Is a stone chucked into the river a bridge? Well... why not?

Hence: why not bridge=stepping_stones?
And leave ford=* for where the waterway cannot (usually) be crossed without
getting your feet wet?


On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 14:43, Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't see much added value in this proposal.
> Boat is not applicable (not a ford), use ferry for that: established
> tagging.
> Swimming, not a ford.
> Stepping stones, I think then it's still a ford; established tagging.
> Add depth, width as needed. An estimate will suffice. Dry=0 cm, soles=5
> cm, ankle=10 cm, knee=0,5 m, wade=1 m.
> Intermittent, tidal: there is tagging for that.
> Construction key could help if you want to tag an artificial ford.
>
> Peter Elderson
>
>
> Op wo 26 jan. 2022 om 11:59 schreef Andrew Harvey <
> andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>:
>
>> I couldn't see anything on the wiki about river crossings grade so I
>> started drafting a proposal
>>
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pedestrian_river_crossing
>>
>> Feedback or comments or help on it is most welcome.
>>
>> # Rational
>>
>> Particularly on hiking trails, the intersection of a highway=footway or
>> highway=path and a waterway=* can be defined as either:
>>
>> - A bridge bridge=yes which allows you to walk over the watercourse.
>> - A culvert tunnel=culvert which takes the water through a tunnel
>> underneath the walking path.
>> - Stepping stones ford=stepping_stones which allow you to walk through
>> the watercourse without usually getting wet (unless the water level is
>> higher than the stepping stones, this tag doesn't imply you'll always be
>> able to get across)
>> - A generic stream/river crossing ford=yes where your path passes through
>> the watercourse.
>> In the last case of ford=yes it can be helpful to describe the usual
>> condition of that stream/river crossing to help give consumers an idea of
>> what they can generally expect.
>>
>> Mindful that conditions can change depending on upstream rainfall, or it
>> could vary seasonally, but for places where it's usually consistent, this
>> proposal proposes tagging it.
>>
>> # Proposed Tagging
>>
>> 0. creek/stream crossing where generally the creekbed is dry and you
>> won't get wet.
>> 1: creek/stream crossing where generally the water level is so low that
>> you won't have water ingress in your shoes
>> 2: creek/stream crossing where your body will stay dry but you'll want to
>> take your shoes off if you prefer to keep them dry
>> 3: river crossing where your body will get wet, may have a rope to help
>> you cross, but you can wade through the water and won't usually need to swim
>> 4: river crossing where you'll need to swim across
>>
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