[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - crossing:markings

Alexander Kane 1998alexkane at gmail.com
Sun Jul 24 00:02:46 UTC 2022


If it is used in Italy to describe pavement markings (and only the pavement
markings) then I see no reason that these should not be retagged to
crossing:markings=zebra over time.

On the other hand, if Italy has a standardized "zebra crossing" (similar to
how I described for the UK) then whatever this means in Italy should be
documented on the wiki (signage, priority, etc.).

Alex

Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com> schrieb am So., 24. Juli 2022, 00:20:

>
>
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 at 12:50, Alexander Kane <1998alexkane at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I updated the proposal saying that using crossing_ref to describe
>> pavement markings should be depricated.
>>
>
> Please do not do that. This tag is used in that sense, in Italy alone, 32k
> times.
>
> Volker
>
> The biggest effect of this is that crossing_ref=zebra should be reverted
>> to its original definition. Currently, the page for crossing_ref=zebra
>> mentions only the road markings, while the key page for crossing_ref=*
>> states that it is the local name for the crossing type, and that (in the
>> UK) crossing_ref=zebra implies more than just zebra markings, but also
>> Belisha beacons, zig-zag markings, and pedestrian priority.
>>
>> Crossing_ref certainly needs an overhaul imo (maybe something like
>> crossing:designation=GB:zebra or the like) but this would probably be best
>> as a separate proposal. In any case, removing info only about the road
>> markings will help make crossing_ref more useful.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <tagging at openstreetmap.org> schrieb am
>> Mo., 11. Juli 2022, 10:56:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 11 lip 2022, 10:07 od minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us:
>>>
>>> Somehow railroad crossings managed to escape the trap of shortsighted
>>> classification tagging. The rail regulators in my region classify level
>>> crossings on a linear scale. For example, the presence of flashing lights
>>> **of course** implies a bell, a saltire, and the requirement for the train
>>> to blow its horn. [5] But I see no problem in filling out a detailed form
>>> about crossing:saltire, crossing:bell, crossing:light, and crossing:horn.
>>> The extra checkboxes benefit regions where these fundamental laws of the
>>> universe do not hold. There can always be a preset for each common
>>> combination for mappers' convenience.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, and crossing tagging should be decoupled into such separate tags.
>>>
>>> Otherwise it will never solve of problems that in different regions
>>> different
>>> things come in a different sets (zebra markings / traffic lights etc)
>>>
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