[Tagging] Free of charge segments of formally paid road
Kevin Kenny
kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com
Wed Jun 1 22:41:17 UTC 2022
The toll road nearest me is now cashless, but used to have a system where
you get a tag when you get on the road and present it to the toll-taker
when you get off - toll was calculated based on distance.
For intra-city travel, the toll was waived - you'd still get a ticket and
have to present it, but the toll was $0.00. But if your origin or
destination was outside the city, the toll included the mileage of the
intra-city portion.
(It still works that way but there's no paper ticket or handing over of
cash - the transponder in your car identifies you, or else a license plate
reader identifies you and you get a bill with a small surcharge.)
I've never tried to map "toll waived for intracity travel" - I just call
the whole thing a toll road and don't trouble to map the exception. Let
people be pleasantly surprised.
On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 2:33 PM Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com> wrote:
> If the wiki is applied in the tagging, the road, from the last escape exit
> past the toll barrier line up to the next point where non-paying traffic
> can enter the road, is toll=yes.
>
> On the map of paid roads the "except local traffic" section would show up
> as an exception. That is closer to the round truth than colouring the
> complete road as paid. Through-traffic can see on the map that it is a paid
> road, except you can escape just before the toll barrier. I can understand
> why the road operator would not advertise the escape, but hey, we don't
> have to solve their problems.
> In Nederland, local traffic usually has separate lanes. If toll is
> involved, local traffic and through traffic cannot mix, which is quite easy
> to accomplish with lane separation.
>
> Peter Elderson
>
>
> Op wo 1 jun. 2022 om 15:56 schreef Alexey Zakharenkov <a-zakh at yandex.ru>:
>
>>
>>
>> > 1 июня 2022 г., в 16:26, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
>> написал(а):
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > sent from a phone
>> >
>> >> On 1 Jun 2022, at 12:06, Alexey Zakharenkov <a-zakh at yandex.ru> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> By documents, 1 - 50 km segment of some road is paid, and this is
>> declared on a billboard, but a driver may use 20 - 30 km segment free. This
>> fact is an objective information and I'm looking for a method to tag it in
>> a most convenient way.
>> >
>> >
>> > tag the billboard and add “inscription” -
>> > if the ground truth says there isn’t a toll for 20-30km, then it’s only
>> a fact of the billboard that the whole road is a toll road
>>
>> The whole road segment 1-50 km is listed in the registry of paid roads of
>> the road operator. Billboard only reflects that status. If one wants a map
>> of paid roads, the set of toll=yes segments is not sufficient.
>>
>>
>> > Cheers Martin
>> >
>> >
>> >
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73 de ke9tv/2, Kevin
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