[Tagging] International and UN names

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Mar 16, 2022, 00:25 by frederik at remote.org:

> Hi,
>
> On 3/15/22 21:35, Minh Nguyen wrote:
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>> There's some redundancy, but redundant name tags are actually preferred in some situations. [3]
>>
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> [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/2288660#Repeating_name_with_language_specific_tag 
> To be honest I strongly disagree with the sentiment on that page, "In cases where multiple languages are tagged for a name, the local-language name tag should be duplicated with the language-specific sub-key." - I can't believe that represents a consensus.
>
What you think about situation described by Brian (and which I and at least one
other person actually encountered)?

There are few options:
- allow such mapping
- this use case is not supported by OSM data and you should use other data source,
use Wikidata or something else for displaying names
- you must be able to guess name language based on location and other hints
note that this will work poorly in any area which may names in multiple language

Personally I would change "should" to "can"/"may be a good idea to"/"can be useful"
rather than mandating repeat - which I believe would represent consensus.

> One of the reasonings given is that "This tagging is important because it ensures that data consumers don't need to infer the local language." which is silly - data consumers never have to infer the local language because the name that is given in the "name" tag *is* name in the local language.
>
It was supposed to go in other direction: data consumers don't need to guess which
local language is being used for a given object - as the can use name:xx tags directly.

With name not repeated in any name:xx tag and having some name:xx tags there is
no reliable way to obtain name of language tagged in name tag

Do you have an idea how to better formulate it?

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BTW
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information_for_name
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information
are related ideas.
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