[Tagging] RFC: Deprecating leisure=summer_camp in favour of tourism=camp_site

Andrew Harvey andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 19 11:34:44 UTC 2022


I do feel they are sufficiently different to warrant a dedicated tag, I
think the "summer camp" term is too US specific, but I'm not fussed on the
actual tag value. We should widen the description on the wiki to make it
clear that they won't always only operate in summer, but may operate year
round, especially in countries with pleasant weather throughout the year.
Here in Australia they are usually called "sport and recreation centers"
and while primarily for school camps other groups can book and use the
facilities. I see some here are tagged leisure=sports_centre but I don't
think that's quite right.

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 at 09:56, Sven Geggus <lists at fuchsschwanzdomain.de>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am the Author of OpenCampingMap (https://opencampingmap.org/) and I just
> recently came across the existence of the tag leisure=summer_camp.
>
> This tag is very uncommon in Germany (where I live).
>
> Looking at OSm as a whole we are talking about 813 vs. 123310 sites.
>
> I think we should deprecate this tag which is AFAIK not used by OSM
> "customers" anyway in favour of tourism=camp_site with additional tags.
>
> Why do I think so?
>
> Well, sommer camps _are_ common in Germany and sites for such events are
> usually taged with the generic tourism=camp_site tag adding an additional
> group_only=yes and if appropriate also scout=yes, tents=yes, and
> caranvans=no and not leisure=summer_camp.
>
> To be honest they often did not have these additional tags and the fact
> that
> they have not been distinguishable on the map was one of the reasons I
> started Open Camping Map and my effort to improve campsite tagging.
>
> I strongly feel that using tourism=camp_site is the better way to tag this
> than using a rarely used tag mappers don't even think might exist.
>
> Summer camps are just special types of campsites after all, even if
> reserved
> for groups only and often operated in summer only (Which is BTW also true
> on
> many tourist campsites). I think we have opening_hours to express this
> fact.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Sven
>
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