[Tagging] leisure=sports_centre tagging

[Raphael]

On Sat, 7 May 2022 at 12:17, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A sports centre (or leisure centre) is a public complex with various
> > sports or exercise facilities.
>
> None of that on the OSM wiki page for sports centres.

Earlier versions of the wiki page make clear that the intended meaning
of leisure=sports_centre is a sports centre. And on
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:leisure, leisure=sports_centre
is still defined as "a distinct facility where a range of sports take
place within an enclosed area".

If the creators of leisure=sports_centre wanted to tag sport
facilities in general, they certainly wouldn't have chosen
leisure=sports_centre – especially because other sport facilities have
their own tag (e.g. golf courses or fitness centres).

> So I think it is fine to tag a sports centre devoted to a single sport
> as a sports centre within OSM

How would you tag real sports centres then? (leisure=sports_centre +
sport=multi wouldn't suffice because this could for instance also be a
facility with a single pitch, hall or pool used for various kinds of
sport.)

> Some sports centres are commercial operations - so access=customers.

A commercial operator (operator:type=private) or an admission fee
(fee=yes) doesn't imply access=customers. access=customers means
"restricted to customers at the destination".

Best regards
Raphael


On Sat, 7 May 2022 at 12:17, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 7/5/22 01:33, Raphael wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > A sports centre (or leisure centre) is a public complex with various
> > sports or exercise facilities.
>
> None of that on the OSM wiki page for sports centres.
>
> So I think it is fine to tag a sports centre devoted to a single sport
> as a sports centre within OSM
>
> Some sports centres are commercial operations - so access=customers.
> Others are associated with a school, college ... so not truly public.
>
>
> > As your example isn't public (it is
> > tagged access=private) and consists only of a swimming pool and
> > (judging from the satellite images) a wading pool, it isn't a sports
> > centre.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Raphael
> >
> > On Fri, 6 May 2022 at 16:29, OKADA Tsuneo <tsuneo.okada at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> In the Japanese OSM community (Talk-ja ML), there is a discussion about leisure=sports_centre
> >>   for tagging a swimming facility in a school or a complex sports center.
> >> Many schools (elementary and secondary) in Japan have outdoor swimming pools for physical education.
> >>
> >> Example:
> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/983090232#map=19/34.82056/135.43982
> >>
> >> Following the description on the wiki page of "Tag:leisure=swimming_pool" or "Swimming_and_bathing",
> >> I tagged the swimming facility with leisure=sports_centre + sport=swimming.
> >>
> >> But someone says it is not appropriate to tag a partial swimming facility as leisure=sports_centre.
> >> They say the tag of leisure=sports_centre is implicitly only for a whole area of (large) sports facilities.
> >>
> >> Are there any such restrictions on this tag?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> --
> >> OKADA Tsuneo
> >> tsuneo.okada at gmail.com
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