[Tagging] River crossing grade

[Timothy Noname]

Where there is a hazard from predators I would like to suggest the
following tag

diet:humans=yes



On Mon, 9 May 2022, 12:10 martianfreeloader, <martianfreeloader at posteo.net>
wrote:

> I don't think these kinds of considerations should be a reason *not* to
> map/tag something on OSM.
>
> Otherwise, the same reasoning could be used against mapping a
> notoriously dangerous road, a demanding hiking path or a climbing crag.
>
> OSM should only provide information, not try to influence what people do
> with that information. Otherwise, there would be endless discussions
> about whether or not to map speed cameras, military areas, etc.
>
> Of course, security-relevant information can be mapped. If we think
> relevant information is missing (e. g. danger from crocodiles), then I
> think, the better way to go is to add this information, rather than
> removing other relevant information.
>
>
>
>
> On 09/05/2022 10:18, Warin wrote:
> > For some river crossings in Australia OSM would then have the value
> > 'swim' on crocodile infested rivers.. that is NOT a good idea! And yes
> > people have died at some of these crossings by crocodile.
> >
> >
> > I see no reason not to simply state a water depth.. even inaccurate it
> > will give a better idea than 'swim', 'wellies' etc.
> >
> >
> > for tidal ..example depth at high_tide=x, depth at low_tide=y
> >
> >
> > On 27/1/22 09:44, Timothy Noname wrote:
> >> Last summer I visited Lopwell dam which is a River ford at low tide
> >> and about 6ft deep at high tide.
> >>
> >> https://maps.app.goo.gl/NYWvnVfeqzSMbhbN8
> >>
> >>
> >> There is also another ford further down stream which is virtually
> >> impassable for anything but a proper 4x4 or tractor,
> >> https://maps.app.goo.gl/TACQSMDdw9dUR18GA
> >> (interesting to watch on YouTube though.)
> >>
> >>
> >> If I were to tag Lopwell dam ford I would like to give it a max value
> >> of swim and a minimum value of wellies.  The foot bridge by its side
> >> is broken but once it's repaired would have a min value of dry and a
> >> max value of swim or wade.  This would provide useful information to
> >> anyone planning a journey.
> >>
> >> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022, 20:53 ael via Tagging,
> >> <tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>     On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 06:30:37PM +0000, Philip Barnes wrote:
> >>     > On Wed, 2022-01-26 at 18:13 +0000, Timothy Noname wrote:
> >>     >
> >>     > Tidal is certainly an unusual thing for a ford, I have seen one
> >>     or two
> >>     > but most roads affected tides are causways and the general rul
> >>     is you
> >>     > do not travel on them if they are covered with water. Tide
> >>     implies salt
> >>     > and I would certainly not drive one no matter how shallow the
> >>     water is.
> >>
> >>     Well, I know of one dubious case in Cornwall:
> >>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/270055625
> >>     is an historic ford crossing the West Looe River which is just about
> >>     tidal at that point. It was incorrectly mapped as a bridge
> >>     some years ago: I have no idea how that could be so wrong, but then
> >>     I have surveyed near there several times, and presumably the
> "bridge"
> >>     was from armchair mapping.
> >>
> >>     I can just about imagine a local farmer crossing in a large tractor
> >>     when the water is very low, but I have seen no sign that there is
> any
> >>     modern use. Streetview seems to have got a bit of the track leading
> >>     there: https://goo.gl/maps/9JeA6d6WN7Mbn72V6
> >>
> >>     Anyway, there can be genuine fords which are tidal, even if this
> >>     particular example is disused.
> >>
> >>     ael
> >>
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