[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - net for sports pitches

Dave F davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com
Sun May 29 17:29:42 UTC 2022


IMO What's being discussed here just isn't standardised enough to be 
accurate. Groundsman can decide on a day to day basis. It varies too 
often & tags are rarely updated.

I don't even bother adding opening times to shops for a similar reason. 
I just add the website & leave it to owners who will be the first to 
know when they change their times.

DaveF


On 29/05/2022 17:03, martianfreeloader wrote:
> Is there any reason not to give the pitch itself an opening_hours tag 
> as well? (of which the value might differ from [usually be a subset 
> of] the club's opening hours)
>
> On 29/05/2022 17:20, Dave F wrote:
>> Opening hours would be for the club/facility as a whole.
>> Martin is talking about individual courts.
>>
>> These can unavailable for various reasons at random times - grass 
>> courts are often rotated to allow regrowth at times of heavy usage.
>>
>> The inconsistency in the times a net is removed makes tagging it 
>> almost impossible & just not really worth the effort.
>>
>> Davef
>>
>>
>> On 29/05/2022 14:08, martianfreeloader wrote:
>>> I think a combination of net=yes/no + opening_hours=* should be 
>>> sufficient for almost all places which have a net only during 
>>> certain periods. I'd expect most places either have a net during 
>>> opening hours or do not have net during opening hours.
>>>
>>> There should be only very few cases with awkward combinations like 
>>> opening_hours=14:00-20:00 + net available only from 15:30 to 18:00 
>>> or so. Should this actually be the case somewhere, then I think 
>>> net=no + description=* would be a way to capture this.
>>>
>>> From private property (like clubs), an additional access=no would of 
>>> course be advisable, as Dave has pointed out.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29/05/2022 14:35, Dave F via Tagging wrote:
>>>>  From the wiki:
>>>> "net=no, indicating that you have to bring your own net"
>>>>
>>>> No it doesn't. it means there isn't a net.
>>>> For clubs & municipal pitches, removal of a net is usually to 
>>>> indicate that the pitch is not to be played on - access=no.
>>>>
>>>> DaveF
>>>>
>>>> On 28/05/2022 19:38, Martin Fischer wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am proposing that we encourage sports pitches, where the sport 
>>>>> requires a net,
>>>>> to be tagged with net=yes or net=no to denote the presence or 
>>>>> absence of a net
>>>>> (opposed to mapping the net as a separate way with barrier=net).
>>>>>
>>>>> Link to proposal:
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/net
>>>>>
>>>>> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Martin
>>>>>
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