[Tagging] Lyft and nameless sectioning in OSM

[martianfreeloader]

I agree with Mateusz.

* landuse=retail,residential,industrial, etc. are not bound to the North 
American concept of zoning.

* landuse=retail does correctly not encompass the veterinarian, because 
a vet mostly sells services, not goods. It is thus correct that the vet 
is in a landuse=commercial area.

I'm not making a statement on whether Lyft's edit are accurate or useful 
in general.

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On the matter of usefulness:

If usefulness would need to be proven for any edit, then 99% of my edits 
would lack legitimacy.

- I think it is totally fine to map for esthetic reasons, as long as the 
editing is correct and adheres to OSM guidelines.

- Also, in many cases, the future use of a data set cannot be foreseen 
in the present. Many things that are extremely useful today appeared 
completely useless at the time they were 
created/invented/studied/discovered.


On 11/10/2022 21:13, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
> 
> Oct 11, 2022, 20:34 by me at evancarroll.com:
> 
>     these polygons don't add any value: they're not describing  what
>     things are, and they're frequently incorrect
> 
> You mentioned https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1101484647 
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1101484647>
> 
> Why it is supposed to be wrong? Are there additional objects not mapped 
> in OSM there?
> Because what I see seems self-consistent.
> 
>     Houston doesn't have zoning: stating what something is today as if
>     it was a zone is problematic anywhere
> 
> landuse=retail is not for legal zoning. For example farmland zoned for 
> retail
> is not landuse=retail.
> 
> landuse=retail is exactly for area used right now predominantly for retail
> 
> and yes, many landuse=retail/residential/commercial/railway areas are 
> not named
> 
>     If we know what every individual building is (which is the ideal),
>     what information is conveyed by telling me that 80% or some
>     unquantified inexplicit percentage of buildings in a grouping are of
>     type Industrial?
> 
> Even if it is useless, this does not make this edits bad.
> 
> Can you explain why you think this specific object is invalid?
> As far as I see it matches how landuse=retail is supposed to be used.
> 
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